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Pudge714 11-13-2005 08:55 PM

I Can\'t Believe What I am about to type
 
Jake Plummer is the NFL MVP right now.
Discuss MVP or other awards here right now I have.
MVP No Mistake Jake
Offensive POY LaDanian Tomlinson
Defensive MVP Dwight Freeney
Offensive ROY Heath Miller
Defensive ROY Odell Thurman
Coach of the Year Jon Gruden

Jack of Arcades 11-13-2005 09:09 PM

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Walter Jones.

Army Eye 11-13-2005 10:15 PM

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Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.

DukeSucks 11-13-2005 10:43 PM

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Jack of Arcades 11-13-2005 10:47 PM

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Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.

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From a pure production standpoint, the QB is always the most valuable of the skill positions.

CD56 11-13-2005 11:02 PM

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you have to do more than not mess up to be MVP, lots of QBs meet this qualification right now...Brady, Manning, Hasselbeck.

the only difference is that everyone expects plummer to play like a tard, but that shouldn't make him MVP

right now i gotta go steve smith, but i bet it will be someone else by the end of the season id guess, LT,Shaun A., maybe Edge

Pudge714 11-13-2005 11:08 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.

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As for Walter Jones an O-Line Man will never win MVP
Since a QB almost always wins the award I think Plummer is a good pick. The only QB who is playing better for a premier team is Carson Palmer.

Out of the QB's rated higher than Plummer
McNabb, Brady, and Bledsoe - Team not good enough
Delhomme, Brees, and Peyton - Might not even by their own teams MVP
Roethlisberger- Too many injuries

That leaves Plummer in IMO as one of the top 2 QB's in the MVP race, and I think Plummer is slightly better candidate than Carson because Dewnver will end with more wins than the Bengals.

Jack of Arcades 11-13-2005 11:12 PM

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Way to come to your conclusion before looking at facts.

lastchance 11-13-2005 11:18 PM

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Brady's just been carrying his team. His defense is sucking, he doesn't have a run game, and the guy is still winning football games on top a division, despite how bad it is. With a normal QB, the Pats would have folded by now.

brettbrettr 11-13-2005 11:19 PM

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Whatever. He's a system quarterback.


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