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Hey guys, I'm trying to learn NL better, i have a decent grasp on the fundamentals but want to improve nuances such as extracting value and whatnot. The players in this hand are unknown to me.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($812)
UTG+1 ($331.72)
UTG+2 ($892)
MP1 ($2472.72)
MP2 ($2027)
Hero ($3978.32)
CO ($576)
Button ($2069)
SB ($1114.50)
BB ($887)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $20, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $78, 1 fold, Hero calls $78, CO calls $78, 3 folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($284) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 bets $234, Hero calls $234, CO folds.

Turn: ($752) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $567, Hero calls $567.

River: ($1886) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero pushes...),

Is this good?

I too enjoy 64 suited.

Looks OK. It's a bit weird b/c the missed draws you are representing may not be plausible - would naturally be much better if there was a missed flush draw.

I'm of the current belief that value bets are easily spotable b/c so few people know how to post-oak, so the push here is probably better.

I hope he called.

Glad you've sobered up.

Lol, i figure on getting the drunk jokes for another few weeks. So anyway, a turn raise he would probably through him off an overpair given the action on this board right?

Yeah - I couldn't resist - we've all been there.

I would raise the turn against some players - either really good ones who will think I'm just making a move, or really bad ones who can't get away from an overpair - my image at the table would be a key considration as always. Only you know who you are dealing with, of course.

There are times I'd raise this flop too - and there are times I'd bet 1/2 pot on the river - but in a vacuum I like your line OK.

yeah, my read was overpair, and this opponent seemed solid. So i thought he might push the flop, but get away from the turn. I was tempted to bet like 700 on the river, but it seems pretty transparent. Not having put in enough hands in NL, i guess this is just the kind of think where i will need to feel these situations out and get more expierience in them.

i like this push much better with a missed flush draw.

i would bet 3/4 pot here.

your line looks so strong, I would be shocked if you got a call from one pair here.

i like 1/2 pot on the river to get a call from his KK/AA and possibly to setup cheaper bluffs in the future.

why not raise the flop, calling ... I don't know, calling makes you seem like a Mudsuka' (in the words of B.A. Baracus)

I think a value bet will get folded to, so a push here seems appropriate.

hmm... is it good? u called about 4x bb with 6/4, almost full pot bet on flop with the draw, and hit the draw.

looks optimal to me