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HoldEmKillah 11-11-2005 02:39 PM

5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
UTG just sat a short while ago, maybe 15 hands. No read

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($1323.75)
SB ($410.25)
BB ($894.75)
UTG ($1242)
MP ($586.25)
Hero ($4719.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, 1 fold</font>, Hero raises to $45</font>, Button calls $45, 2 folds</font>, UTG calls $35.

Flop: ($150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
UTG bets $140</font>, Hero raises to $4674.25 (All-In)</font>

technologic 11-11-2005 03:02 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
i think a raise to 500 gets the job accomplished and avoids getting rocked by hands behind you.

edit: didn't see that they weren't as deep as you. it may be fine then...

ladykiller 11-11-2005 03:17 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
You're a coin flip if he's got q10 and I don't think he'd fold that. And your about 1/3 if he's got a set. What hands could he be leading out for the pot on the flop when he limp/called your preflop raise? A flush/straight draw will fold, but that's really the only hand along with a kq that he'd fold. I think I like a call on flop better.

flawless_victory 11-11-2005 03:19 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
standard.
looks good.

FeelGoodAboutHood 11-11-2005 03:45 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
Seems to me that the range of hands that he would limp UTG and then lead into the PF raiser is also well within the 'call curious overbets on drawy boards' range.

Of course, if you're looking for a call here, I like it alot, but I don't see how that's what you're looking for.

HoldEmKillah 11-11-2005 03:47 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
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Of course, if you're looking for a call here, I like it alot, but I don't see how that's what you're looking for.

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I'm looking for a fold but don't hate a call. Bacically I'm looking to make a +EV play.

psuasskicker 11-11-2005 03:48 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
Why exactly do you want to push out everyone who doesn't have you beat with that strong a hand?

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Edit: Not with that strong a hand...how 'bout "with that much equity in the hand"...

HoldEmKillah 11-11-2005 03:49 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
btw, I immidiately moved in. I mean, faster than fast...if that matters.

HoldEmKillah 11-11-2005 04:10 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
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Why exactly do you want to push out everyone who doesn't have you beat with that strong a hand?

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I'm behind to AQ,KQ,KK, all hands I should be able to fold out. AA/AsKs I MAY be able to fold out as well.

66 and Q10 likely call but it's not that bad if they do.

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Edit: Not with that strong a hand...how 'bout "with that much equity in the hand"...

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What exactly do you mean by this? I have trouble with this concept. Doesn't my $ equity in the hand go way up by moving in?

TheWorstPlayer 11-11-2005 04:23 PM

Re: 5/10 Flop Overbet Semibluff
 
The equity in the hand is the % of the time that you will wind the hand times the size of the pot. So by moving in, you may increase your equity if you knock people out. But if everyone calls, then your equity % stays the same but the pot is bigger.


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