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11-09-2005 02:27 AM

low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
***** Hand History for Game 3006561740 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 09, 01:24:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 68951 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: chad51377 ( $57.25 )
Seat 2: TAO75555 ( $172.50 )
Seat 4: juantonamera ( $242.30 )
Seat 6: Warehouse340 ( $258.24 )
Seat 3: NiRRRR ( $195 )
Seat 5: fofooofooofo ( $118.44 )
chad51377 posts small blind [$1].
TAO75555 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NiRRRR [ 6d 6s ]
NiRRRR calls [$2].
fofooofooofo calls [$2].
Warehouse340 folds.
chad51377 raises [$3].
TAO75555 calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 65958 (6 max) Table!.
NiRRRR calls [$2].
fofooofooofo calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 6c, 8c ]
chad51377 bets [$4].
TAO75555 calls [$4].
NiRRRR raises [$15].
fofooofooofo folds.
chad51377 raises [$22].
nirrrr?????

has to b a fold right? just sat down.

amoeba 11-09-2005 02:31 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
push it in.

he minraised preflop with short stack. this has got to be AA or KK. possibly 2 overs with flush draw.

fathertime 11-09-2005 02:32 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
More often than not you are ahead here. The 2 lines I've seen advocated on the boards are bet/3bet all in and bet, call, push turn.

amoeba 11-09-2005 02:35 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
I assume TAO folded as you didn't indicate.

if he called the reraise or pushed himself, you can consider something aside from pushing yourself.

11-09-2005 02:39 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
yes tao folded.

amoeba 11-09-2005 02:41 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
then I don't see how you don't get broke for 25bbs with a flopped set especially against preflop raiser where a flopped straight is less likely.

11-09-2005 03:00 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
Why are we assuming we're behind here???

amoeba 11-09-2005 03:03 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
we aren't.

even if villain showed the straight, his stack size almost gives us odds to fill.

11-09-2005 03:13 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
just for the records.. i called but i mean when i think of it.. what hands would someone rereraise min with? flopped straight or bigger flopped set. at worst 2 pair.. overpockets i highly doubt. they are all donks!!

amoeba 11-09-2005 03:15 AM

Re: low set on flop.. has to b a fold on flop right?
 
I've seen big overpairs misplayed this way way too often by short stack to think about being behind.

also could be something like 99.

in anycase I don't think you can lay this down.


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