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Live 1-2 NL

Button: Hero $400
MP3 : Villian 1 $450 Tight, slightly aggresive
MP1 : Villian 2 $150 Slightly Tight, aggresive

Hero KK

MP1 limps, MP3 raises to $15, Hero calls, MP1 calls

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($48)

MP1 check, MP3 bets $20, Hero calls, MP1 calls

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($108)

MP1 check, MP3 check, Hero bets $100

What do you think? Clearly this is an obvious fold for a flush draw, but I was trying to represent the flush/OESD draw with the huge overbet, hoping to get called by a made hand. The only hand I'm getting action from on the river is a hand that beats me. Was this too much $50 or $75 better?

mmm i dont like the flat call on the flop pot is 50, he bet even less than 1/2 pot, other player could easily be drawing

raise it up on the flop

turn is fine

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Live 1-2 NL

Button: Hero $400
MP3 : Villian 1 $450 Tight, slightly aggresive
MP1 : Villian 2 $150 Slightly Tight, aggresive

Hero KK

MP1 limps, MP3 raises to $15, Hero calls, MP1 calls

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($48)

MP1 check, MP3 bets $20, Hero calls, MP1 calls

Turn 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($108)

MP1 check, MP3 check, Hero bets $100

What do you think? Clearly this is an obvious fold for a flush draw, but I was trying to represent the flush/OESD draw with the huge overbet, hoping to get called by a made hand. The only hand I'm getting action from on the river is a hand that beats me. Was this too much $50 or $75 better?

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To me this looks much more like a pot-sized bet than a huge overbet. Am I missing something here?

For now, you have the nuts. Maybe I push here, but full pot bet is best, I think.

dave.

I would re-raise this pre-flop and raise on the flop. With Kings I want to get my money in pre-flop. Calling on the flop represents a draw, which you don't want to do. If the drawing card hits, you won't get action from anyone that didn't make a big hand with the drawing card.