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Goodnews 11-05-2005 02:29 AM

TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
Very loose passive table, average vpip is 63, and 0 preflop raise. Both UTG and MP1 are loose-passive weaklings.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (7 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ???

Value bet here? Normally I would except that the flop action doesn't add up. What do I do?

Are there any other problems with any of the other streets?

KaiShin 11-05-2005 02:33 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
Either bet/call or bet/fold depending on what happens.

McGahee 11-05-2005 02:41 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
Fairly straightforward bet/fold - looks like UTG whiffed on his club draw - the others will call with worse hands.

emitch 11-05-2005 04:44 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
Grunch,

You hate to give the flush draws a free card, but I think this is a classic WA/WB situation. Check/Call, Check/Call, Bet.

I wouldn't think that you are ahead to a raise by a loose passive weakling, but the turn check through is odd. My guess is that he has an ace with a medium kicker and the cold calls scared him.

The way you played it, I check/call the river. If he doesn't have an ace, he probably won't call and checking may induce a bluff if he doesn't. With the weird action I think you are good 1/8 here.

my two cents

mitch

SoftcoreRevolt 11-05-2005 04:55 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
Bet. If UTG were even remotely likely to bluff here I'd go for a check call, but that seems doubtful. Weird hand, the Cold calls on the flop seem like trouble, but they'd likely bet the turn here if they did. So bet fold.

Aaron W. 11-05-2005 05:02 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
You hate to give the flush draws a free card, but I think this is a classic WA/WB situation. Check/Call, Check/Call, Bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is not WA/WB. Due to the board texture, a bet from villain can be far too many hands which are neither WA nor WB.

TomBrooks 11-05-2005 05:17 AM

Re: TPNK - How do you play this river?
 
I like check/call. Our kicker sux and three people called two cold on the flop.

Betting doesn't look too terrible, but that free card could have made someone two pair. I'd want to fold to a raise.

Checking could induce a bluff from a King maybe also.


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