Biggest Online Winner (BOW) Strategy
 

Hello All,
I'd like to discuss the strategy used by the "Biggest Online Winner (BOW)", as described in Phil Gordon's Little Green Book. For those who haven't read the book, here's a brief description of the BOW strategy used in NL Cash Games (as referenced in the book on pp 246):

1. Get in the pot cheaply

2. Massively overbet with some premium draws

3. Massively overbet with the nuts or the best hand


Here's an example (also referenced from the book on pp 246):

After the flop the pot is 500.00
BOW has 5,000.00
I have 5,000.00 and Ac Kd
The flop comes down: Ah 7s 6s
BOW moves all-in


Here are some specifics I'd like to discuss:

1) Has anyone used this strategy? If so, what's your opinion of it? If not, feel free to give your opinion.

2) Do you believe this strategy to be effective w/ a standard buy-in of 100 BB?

3) For the purpose of using this strategy, could a clean 8-out draw be considered "Premium" on the flop? I think that the combination of Fold Equity & the Odds of making your hand make this a profitable play (though alot of other factors come into consideration, such as number of opponents & reads).


I know that many, many factors come to mind anytime one decides how to play a given holding. If you think it'll improve the quality of this post, I'll create some hands &
post them.


Thanks In Advance,
mayesie

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This strategy is not good for SSNL. If you only overbet the nuts it is closer to optimal. People call WAY too much.

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Doesn't Prahlad Friedman use a lot of this strategy?

Also, try posting this in MHNL. Semibluffing and table image are not exactly top priorities in SSNL.

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Like the idea, hate the example.

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Idea might be good but try it on that board and you're only getting called by sets and two pairs. You can offset your loss a little by including AQ but its not enough.

Better at higher stakes and if you seriously want to play higher stakes you should consider learning the game properly.

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Idea might be good but try it on that board and you're only getting called by sets and two pairs. You can offset your loss a little by including AQ but its not enough.

Better at higher stakes and if you seriously want to play higher stakes you should consider learning the game properly.

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I've never used this strategy. What exactly do you mean when you say "learning the game properly"? If your statement equates to "understanding basic & intermediate fundamentals" and "playing well enough to properly execute the fundamentals", I tend to agree.

Nonetheless, the BOM strategy doesn't seem to be a big hit around here!

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Doesn't Prahlad Friedman use a lot of this strategy?

Also, try posting this in MHNL. Semibluffing and table image are not exactly top priorities in SSNL.

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Thanks for the suggestion regarding MHNL. Is it your opinion that Semibluffing and table image aren't high priorities in SSNL?

Regardless, I think I understand your point (Semibluffing and table image become much more important as you play higher stakes).

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Also, I believe "BOW" to be none other than Prahlad himself!

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Like the idea, hate the example.

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Please elaborate as to why you hate about the example.

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This strategy is not good for SSNL. If you only overbet the nuts it is closer to optimal. People call WAY too much.

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I can't say for sure whether or not they call too much in SSNL. Obviously, there are plenty of players willing to call off their stacks in increments. In my experience, an overbet of this magnitude is quite rare.