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Walker 11-04-2005 12:27 PM

can I sleep well tonight?
 
4/8 live

6 limpers to me, I raise J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

(13SB)Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to Mp (loose pf but aggressive thinking player post flop) who bets, any-two-will-do auto-flop-caller calls (shocking), I fold.

ErrantNight 11-04-2005 12:30 PM

Re: can I sleep well tonight?
 
boo. peel.

MEbenhoe 11-04-2005 12:31 PM

Re: can I sleep well tonight?
 
that fold is bad even if MP had accidentally flipped over a Q.

Duffman 11-04-2005 12:33 PM

Re: can I sleep well tonight?
 
I raise the flop here. You could be ahead of MP since an aggresive player could bet middle pair, or any pocket pair here. I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet, especially if it's from one of the other players.

Check/fold the turn UI.

MEbenhoe 11-04-2005 12:38 PM

Re: can I sleep well tonight?
 
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I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet



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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] WHAT?!

W. Deranged 11-04-2005 12:42 PM

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I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet



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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] WHAT?!

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"Pot odds" is an important concept.

MEbenhoe 11-04-2005 12:47 PM

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I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet



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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] WHAT?!

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"Pot odds" is an important concept.

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which is why folding to a 3 bet is ridiculous....

W. Deranged 11-04-2005 12:49 PM

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I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet



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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] WHAT?!

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"Pot odds" is an important concept.

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which is why folding to a 3 bet is ridiculous....

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But of course... I was just seconding your motion that raising and folding to a three-bet is borderline institutionalizable.

MEbenhoe 11-04-2005 12:50 PM

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I'd probably lay this down if 3-bet



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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] WHAT?!

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"Pot odds" is an important concept.

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which is why folding to a 3 bet is ridiculous....

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But of course... I was just seconding your motion that raising and folding to a three-bet is borderline institutionalizable.

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ahh i gotcha now [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

AaronS 11-04-2005 12:54 PM

Re: can I sleep well tonight?
 
I would raise the flop, and try to knock out everyone else. I think calling here is the worst, because people will call one bet with a single K or A in this large pot. If we get cold callers on the flop, I slow down UI the rest of the hand. Raising this flop gives you a clear idea of where you stand on this uncoordinated board.


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