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bambi 11-04-2005 01:15 AM

Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
Probably boring but, no reads

Ultimate Bet 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Adam22 11-04-2005 01:21 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
i sometimes 3 bet in that position ( OOP with AQo in the bb against a raiser ) but i never feel too great about it. if you're calling the turn with just a gutshot and discounted overcards, you're not doing yourself a favor.

hobbsmann 11-04-2005 01:24 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
standard.

Redd 11-04-2005 02:23 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
edit: nm I get it. Nice hand.

hobbsmann 11-04-2005 02:36 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
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standard.

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Why? I don't get the turn call.

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We are getting 6:1 and the times we are behind we are likely drawing to at least the requisite 7 outs needed to profitably call the turn.

11-04-2005 02:40 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
I think folding the turn here would be good, 6:1 is not enough as at least one of your overs is probably not good (most likely the A).

MyTurn2Raise 11-04-2005 02:43 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
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I think folding the turn here would be good, 6:1 is not enough as at least one of your overs is probably not good (most likely the A).

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That means one over and the kings are still good. I think of the 3 aces, 3 queens, and 4 kings, you should think about 8 outs~17.6%. It's also possible the opponent is just betting KQ or a flush draw hard and will check behind on a missed river.

flopmonster 11-04-2005 03:19 AM

Re: Good, bad, Ugly or standard
 
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i sometimes 3 bet in that position ( OOP with AQo in the bb against a raiser ) but i never feel too great about it. if you're calling the turn with just a gutshot and discounted overcards, you're not doing yourself a favor.

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I agree I don't like chasing this river


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