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checkmate36 11-03-2005 06:03 PM

QJs from SB
 
PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Villian is rated taz (36/12) with harv's rules but not many hands. Among the hands he has raised pre-flop are 53o and 44.

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Looks like KQ but you can't be sure and I have a redraw to my own straight if Im behind. I was thinking 2-pair is possible as well as an overpair. You just don't know with this guy. Im slowing down and going to showdown.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

cold_cash 11-03-2005 06:11 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
I dig.

(Sometimes I'd bet the flop too.)

MrWookie47 11-03-2005 06:39 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dig.

(Sometimes I'd bet the flop too.)

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PokerSparky 11-03-2005 06:49 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em


<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>

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Wow!

Nice hand.

LoaferGee12 11-03-2005 06:56 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
Yeah, this looks good. On a side note, what are people doing if that turn is a brick and villain raises? That situation comes up often for me.

checkmate36 11-03-2005 07:17 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
I think I would call down if I got raised by villian after a brick hit. I may not even be behind.

checkmate36 11-03-2005 07:29 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
Here is one I just had where a brick hit on the turn and I was raised by another taz rated player-

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 3h Ad (two pair, aces and sevens).
Hero has Ks Ac (two pair, aces and sevens).
Button has 5d Ah (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 11 BB. </font>

Aaron W. 11-03-2005 07:36 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
Looks like KQ but you can't be sure and I have a redraw to my own straight if Im behind. I was thinking 2-pair is possible as well as an overpair. You just don't know with this guy. Im slowing down and going to showdown.

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LOL. It doesn't look like KQ unless you have your MUBS glasses on.

Slowing down is fine. You have a weak read and villain capped preflop. You don't want to go nuts just yet.

milesdyson 11-03-2005 07:44 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is one I just had where a brick hit on the turn and I was raised by another taz rated player-

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

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you beat too many hands here to not 3-bet. show me an AQ9 flop and then i would just call this turn raise.

MrWookie47 11-03-2005 07:47 PM

Re: QJs from SB
 
If these guys are willing to cold call A3, I think we beat exactly the same number of hands in either case.

Edit: I was only thinking about aces up. I guess we don't have to worry about one set on your board, QQ, but we have a straight that's a mild concern for a straight on this one. Your board has Q9 that's more likely though. I guess you're right, but I don't think I'm 3betting this out of fear of aces up.


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