Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG Raises to 6, MP Calls, Hero Raises to 25, UTG Calls, MP Calls

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot:

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

you have to bet to see where you are. at least a half pot on the flop.

otherise, you're behind A2+

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

Looks not terrible. I might bet the turn.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

Do you really bet half pot on this flop? Hero knows where he is. He is either way ahead, or way behind. You dont bet flop to see where you are. You MIGHT make a case for betting the flop to stop 1010-jj other random cards you are beating to try and take it away on later streets.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

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you have to bet to see where you are. at least a half pot on the flop.

otherise, you're behind A2+

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I disagree. The hands that check to me here aren't a pair bigger than queens. They're either smaller and are check/fold, or they're big enough to give the free card. If I'm either way ahead or way behind, why should i spend money to find out which one? Why do you bet to see where you're at?

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

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Looks not terrible. I might bet the turn.

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Yeah, I see that. The only problem is that I don't want to get blown off my hand. If I check the flop and bet the turn when checked to, I think this is really good spot for someone to put me on a steal and raise me big. I don't think worse hands call my turn bet, they raise it. Maybe I'm inducing a bluff here. I'm gonna call a lot of river bets.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

Standard. At least for me.

Will Ace-small/King-small fold to a small turn/river bet? Maybe / depends.
Will Ace-small/King-small fold to a large turn/river bet? Sure, but a big bet here would be insane, right?
Will anything we beat call? No.

I think checking down this is both +EV and -variance.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

I use to make a small valuebet of $20 or so here on the river.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

Props to you for keeping the term "sand in my vagina" in circulation. Now add "cockmonger" to your repretoire and things should be kosher.

Re: Standard, or is There Sand In My Vagina?
 

Looks good to me. A continuation bet seems to have no value.