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PokerCrab 10-29-2005 03:35 PM

Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
1/2 NL game - New player comes in announces he always does business whether he was favorite or not. Sure enough - two to three hours in - He did business like 3 times where I think he was favorite everytime.

So I get into a hand where he goes all in when he flopped top 2 pairs and I called with bottom set. Pot was about $900. I turned down his offer for business and I go ahead and win the hand. He starts mumbling to the table about how young kids these days dont appreciate and return favors. Dont get me wrong - he wasnt being a jerk -- it was just a little comment and he didnt seem like a jerk at all so I know was a just a little upset about losing.

I normally dont do business when Im a favorite - I do sometimes when it's a coin toss or if Im a dog BUT I never bring up business - I dont mind just playing it out but in the cases when Im a dog - I always accept someones offer to do business but I never ask - How can anyone turn down doing business when you are a dog anyways?? heh heh.

But in this situation - would you go out of your own playing standards and do business out of courtesy?? To be honest also -- I would have accepted his offer to do business if I was the dog. I play for a living so winning and losing means more than someone playing for pleasure or for supplemental income.

What do you guys think?

MCS 10-29-2005 03:41 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
What exactly is he doing? Is he just agreeing to split the pot with people headsup or something?

I don't really think "doing business" should be allowed, and I've never played NL in a casino. But I think if I can make a +EV deal, I do it. If not, I don't.

PokerCrab 10-29-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
For those that are not sure what doing business means....

"doing Business" in a club means the two player agrees to run the Turn and River card more than once - usually 2-3 times then u chop up the pot according to how many times u win.

Dynasty 10-29-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
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I normally dont do business when Im a favorite...How can anyone turn down doing business when you are a dog anyways?? heh heh.


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This makes it sound like you don't understand these situations. Running the turn and river multiple times does not provide a benefit to either the favorite or underdog. It's an EV-neutral situation.

SheetWise 10-29-2005 04:56 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
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Running the turn and river multiple times does not provide a benefit to either the favorite or underdog. It's an EV-neutral situation.

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But should reduce variance.

Homer 10-29-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
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I normally dont do business when Im a favorite...How can anyone turn down doing business when you are a dog anyways?? heh heh.


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This makes it sound like you don't understand these situations. Running the turn and river multiple times does not provide a benefit to either the favorite or underdog. It's an EV-neutral situation.

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Do they reshuffle after each turn-river combination is dealt, including the previous turn-river that was dealt?

10-29-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
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I normally dont do business when Im a favorite...How can anyone turn down doing business when you are a dog anyways?? heh heh.


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This makes it sound like you don't understand these situations. Running the turn and river multiple times does not provide a benefit to either the favorite or underdog. It's an EV-neutral situation.

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Do they reshuffle after each turn-river combination is dealt, including the previous turn-river that was dealt?

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It doesn't matter.

Miah 10-29-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
No they don't. I like running it a few times because I don't give up anything (in terms of EV) but gain a lower variance.

youtalkfunny 10-31-2005 02:56 AM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
Am I the only one thinking that this is a waste of time in a $1-2 game?

Miah 10-31-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Club Ettiquettes - Would u do business in this situation?
 
Waste of time on pots that are in the thousands? I'd like to be that rich.


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