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suited_ace 10-28-2005 06:47 PM

I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
As I may have said before, I hate min-raises. And when a player that I feel is weak enough for me to outplay post-flop does it, I'm calling w/ a lot of playable hands...

This is the hand:

Villain: t2055
SB: t3335
Me: t2610

Blinds at 200/400.

Villain min-raises and I call w/ T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I give him very, very little credit for having Ax. My range for him is more like suited connectors up to KQ. I give him a little bit of credit for AA or KK.

I'm going for a stop 'n go if the flop is not paired. But then...

Flop (t1800): Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I don't like open-pushing this kind of flop without actually having the third A. I'm sticking w/ my initial read, so if he min-bets the flop, I'm pushing (that's the only bet that I think still leaves him w/ enough chips to fold), and I'm pushing any turn.

What do you guys think?

tigerite 10-28-2005 06:59 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
Seems like FPS to me.. if you give him little credit for Ax why don't you just re-push preflop.

Scuba Chuck 10-28-2005 07:00 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
[ QUOTE ]
As I may have said before, I hate min-raises. And when a player that I feel is weak enough for me to outplay post-flop does it, I'm calling w/ a lot of playable hands...


[/ QUOTE ]

Are you a former limit player? This is an attitude I'm learning from a limit player. This attitude is quite a bit more dangerous in NL games. That being said, danger is the real attraction to NL ain't it?

Shilly 10-28-2005 07:00 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
I think you've got a bad case of FPS here. Like you said, I would not push without an ace because it looks like a total bluff, and you'll get called by hands with a Q and maybe even lower pairs. Check-raising all in against a flop minbet seems ok, but I don't think I would get into this spot in the first place.

Exitonly 10-28-2005 07:03 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
what's FPS?


i've seen it a lot lately, no idea what you guys are talking about.


First Person Shooter?

Shilly 10-28-2005 07:04 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
[ QUOTE ]
what's FPS?


i've seen it a lot lately, no idea what you guys are talking about.


First Person Shooter?

[/ QUOTE ]

Fancy play syndrome

Onaflag 10-28-2005 07:05 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
Fancy Play Syndrome

Onaflag.........

psyduck 10-28-2005 07:05 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
fancy play syndrome.

edit: beets

fwiw, I do this a lot if I have good read on the opponent. if villain minbets flop, I think you'll take him off any non-ace hand a large % of the time.

Onaflag 10-28-2005 07:06 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
You're fast. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Onaflag........

suited_ace 10-28-2005 07:10 PM

Re: I might be a good player. Then again, I might be a donk.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Seems like FPS to me.. if you give him little credit for Ax why don't you just re-push preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree it's FPS.

FWIW, Villain min-bet the flop and called my push w/ 56 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].


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