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SammyKid11 10-25-2005 01:27 AM

(22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
More early game stuff.

***** Hand History for Game 2927571007 *****
30/60 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 16857939) - TUE OCT 25 00:01:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 69757 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: notaname42 (800)
Seat 2: slickyvick88 (915)
Seat 3: HERO (685)
Seat 4: lucaspenn (1735)
Seat 5: suppo (775)
Seat 7: cduffyr (1025)
Seat 8: wjsill (1455)
Seat 10: DannyPA0g (610)
lucaspenn posts small blind (15)
suppo posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Th, Ah ]
cduffyr calls (30)
wjsill folds.
DannyPA0g folds.
notaname42 folds.
slickyvick88 calls (30)
HERO calls (30)
lucaspenn calls (15)
suppo folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9h, Jh, 2d ]
lucaspenn checks.
cduffyr checks.
slickyvick88 checks.
HERO bets (100)
lucaspenn folds.
cduffyr calls (100)
slickyvick88 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
cduffyr bets (30)
HERO calls (30)
** Dealing River ** : [ 8d ]
cduffyr bets (865)
cduffyr is all-In.
HERO calls (525)
HERO is all-In.

Questions:
1) Anyone have a problem PF?
2) Anyone have a problem with flop bet?
3) Most importantly, I've just hit my nut flush on the turn, villain min-bets me...I just called hoping for villain to catch a K-high flush on river OR, more likely, for him to bluff at the pot. Should I be raising right here on the turn instead, or is calling okay?

bones 10-25-2005 01:30 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
Do whatever you think will get the money in on the turn. And if you want to hide your screenname, make sure you replace it on all streets.

splashpot 10-25-2005 01:31 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
Definately raise the turn. If a 2, J or 9 fall, you're screwed.

rbear 10-25-2005 01:33 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
1. Really the only thing you can play this for is the flush or 2 pair, but I generally fold.

2.I like this semi-bluff, a lot of times you'll take the pot down here, plus you have position.

3. You're not scared of much. I like the cold call, and you can value bet the river.

SammyKid11 10-25-2005 01:33 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
Alright, cool. Yeah, I figured I played that poorly.

SammyKid11 10-25-2005 01:36 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. Really the only thing you can play this for is the flush or 2 pair, but I generally fold.


[/ QUOTE ]

Really? You won't play ATs on the button with two limpers in front of you? At the 22's? I mean, yeah, you can play it for the flush, for 2-pair, for the nut straight...and in this example you've got position and a multi-way pot. Seems like if you're EVER going to play this hand, it'd be now.

Can you give any more detail on why you're folding this PF? What do others think?

bones 10-25-2005 01:37 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
Calling this min bet on the turn is terrible. You're allowing the player who is behind in the hand to set the price that he's being charged to draw.

rbear 10-25-2005 01:51 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
Are you raising to induce a fold? What's the max you bet here to get most value?

splashpot 10-25-2005 01:53 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Are you raising to induce a fold? What's the max you bet here to get most value?

[/ QUOTE ]
You're raising to give him bad odds to call. I raise to something like 200-250 here.

bones 10-25-2005 01:58 AM

Re: (22\'s) - Just turned nut flush on a paired board.....now what?
 
What I bet is entirely dependant on how he picked up his first 200 chips.


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