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2+2 Junkie 10-24-2005 11:30 PM

KK giving me fits
 
Here are two KK hands that I really didn't know what to do on:

Hand 1:
CO is semi-loose, passive

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) calls, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (11.80 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9.90 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: (9.90 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 11.90 BB

Hand 2:
MP2 is tight passive
MP3 is semi-loose passive

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (15.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="red">CO Bets </font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 15.70 BB

SoftcoreRevolt 10-24-2005 11:36 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
You gots to raise the river on hand two. Hand 1 seems a little too passive, I'd 3 bet the flop with villain possibly on the flush draw.

jaxUp 10-24-2005 11:38 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
I 3bet the flop in hand 1. We'll see a 9 or a FD here often. Hand 2 I think I like. Not sure about flop c/r, but I think it has some merit. What were your reasons for doing it?

jaxUp 10-24-2005 11:42 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
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You gots to raise the river on hand two.

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I'd prefer to go for overcall with a paired board and 4 flush here.

2+2 Junkie 10-24-2005 11:45 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
These are my reasons for check raising flop on Hand 1 (let me know if any or all are flawed reasons)
1. I figured I had the best hand
2. I wanted anybody with a flush draw to pay for it
3. I wanted hands like AJ or QJ out if they didn't have a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], thinking I flopped a flush (basically trying to lower the chance of someone getting 2 pair on me)

2+2 Junkie 10-24-2005 11:47 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
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You gots to raise the river on hand two.

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I'd prefer to go for overcall with a paired board and 4 flush here.

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With the 4 bet pre-flop, is anyone concerned about the Ace of diamonds here?

10-24-2005 11:51 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
Hand 1 - 3 bet the flop

Hand 2 - I would just lead the flop. I bet/call the river

10-24-2005 11:54 PM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
Hand1:
I'm Reraising the flop for value. You've got a couple people trapped.
I'd lead the Turn and call reraise then check/call river

Hand2:
I'm trying to think do I 3bet Turn and I'm leaning to just calling. Thats a lot of aggression for a board that screams "I've got a flush" or I've got 3 Jacks.

AA would play this hand that way especially with Ad..I'd call the River.

TomBrooks 10-25-2005 12:16 AM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
Hand 1: Three bet the flop, bet the turn, fold the river.

Hand 2 looks OK.

10-25-2005 12:18 AM

Re: KK giving me fits
 
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Hand 1: Three bet the flop, bet the turn, fold the river.

Hand 2 looks OK.

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