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GoCubsGo 10-20-2005 10:12 PM

Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
Villain is fishy preflop but aggressive post flop after ~50 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) converter

BB ($77.95)
UTG ($85.85)
Hero ($102.60)
SB ($104.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($13.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($29.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $38</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes</font>

Only bet 1/2 on flop because I wanted him to call and didn't fear too many (any) cards. What do you think?

xorbie 10-20-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
Pot the flop.

Allinlife 10-20-2005 10:14 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
Hard, but I think you are better off calling his minraise and letting go w/o filling up on river. his betting patterns very much resembles how a bad player would play 98.

JustToast 10-20-2005 10:28 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
Good to meet you on Stars the other day Cubs.

You had to raise that turn against the donkbet as he could have picked up the diamond draw but I'm calling his 3-bet and hoping to fill. Probably would call a river push too though but he's obviously not folding to your push so either way you're getting the chips in.

If your question is whether I could fold to him here the answer is no given that description.

Komodo 10-20-2005 10:51 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
I push here too. Bad luck if he got 89.

GoCubsGo 10-20-2005 11:02 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
Wow. I didn't even think of 98 at the time. It's tough to put your opponent on such a wide range in a hand that was raised preflop, but in hindsight he could have easily had that.

orange 10-20-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
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Pot the flop.

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10-20-2005 11:51 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
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I push here too. Bad luck if he got 89.

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Or perhaps more likely, KQ

GoCubsGo 10-21-2005 04:52 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
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I push here too. Bad luck if he got 89.

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Or perhaps more likely, KQ

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Ding ding ding! What do you do about this? I got him to call half the pot with 4 outs, but then he won a big pot when he won, so implied odds were on his side. I thought this looked like a pretty safe flop. Do you adjust and bet more against these types of players? Or do you bet the same, but are more willing to let your hand go anticipating that your opponent hit a possible 4 out draw?

I don't want him to draw out on me, but I want to make some money here as well. If I bet $10 on the flop he probably folds. It seems like I'll never win money if I just buy the pot and make $5 every time I catch a big hand. Another worry is that my play will be too predictable. How do you play a big hand against very bad players like this?

Hoopster81 10-21-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Set of 10\'s vs. bad player
 
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If I bet $10 on the flop he probably folds. It seems like I'll never win money if I just buy the pot and make $5 every time I catch a big hand.

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This is not a good mentality. Your play has to be such that you bet pot on a wide variety of holdings right there so he is always guessing. Then, when he makes a mistake and plays back at you when you are very strong you cut him down.


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