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thesharpie 10-18-2005 11:08 AM

Q9s
 
Sat down recently, UTG seemed loose and button seemed fairly passive. What about PF?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero ???

Womble 10-18-2005 11:14 AM

Re: Q9s
 
Anyone fold the flop? You are getting 9.5/1 but I give you 5 outs at best. The possibility of a raise kills you here. Its close anyway and I would call.

On the turn, if your not raising that what are you doing? Fold to a 3bet

billyjex 10-18-2005 01:28 PM

Re: Q9s
 
Fold preflop. If you are intent on playing, raise and try to isolate the fishy limper. I raise QTs here, but Q9s is marginal enough for me to muck.

Then I muck the flop. Your gutter outs may be tainted with the flush draw, and it may be raised behind you, so it's not like you're really getting odds here.

wackjob 10-18-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Q9s
 
You are a fish. Raise or fold PF. Bet or fold the flop. Raise or fold the turn.

trentcroad 10-18-2005 01:36 PM

Re: Q9s
 
I think Id just fold the flop.

KDawgCometh 10-18-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Q9s
 
I'd rather see a raise PF to isolate the limper. As is, this flop is a fold and I'm also folding this turn. Your TP is relly weak no matter which way you cut it, a flush draw came in, and a straight draw came in too. You also have even more tainted outs on the ten. I'm not finding any reason to call more less raise here

nukemar25 10-18-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Q9s
 
I agree with Billy. I think you should fold this pre-flop but if you are going to play then raise and try to isolate the limper. This is a good blind stealing hand but other than that I muck this outside the blinds. Considering how you played it I fold the flop.

Silverback 10-18-2005 02:43 PM

Re: Q9s
 
I say limp preflop given the read you have of the button as not being aggressive,
Id fold the flop, 3 outs.


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