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10-18-2005 03:52 AM

two hands that i butchered i think?
 
are these both really clear raises? Im on a bit of a downswing and i feel like im missing alot of valuebet\raises and folding way too much to check\raises here is a couple from today

villian in this hand is laggy preflop but not that crazy post
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.66 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero?.


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero?

wackjob 10-18-2005 03:58 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
Hand 1: raise turn
Hand 2: c/r turn &amp; calldown when he 3-bets

10-18-2005 04:00 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
thanks is that prelfop standard with 66 in the SB or a bit loose?

10-18-2005 04:25 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
Preflop: I think it's either raise or fold here, which depends on UTG's pfr%. If he's a loose raiser I'd 3bet, if he's tight I'd fold.

wheelz 10-18-2005 04:39 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
hand 1: it doesn't seem like UTG is too bright, you only need to fear 66 or 77, and the way you played the hand means he may not think you have a jack. you're closing the action so i think you should cap the river.

hand 2: fold preflop. easy check-call on the river the way you played it.

trentcroad 10-18-2005 04:54 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
Id call the cap in the first and would have folded pf in the second.

Peter Harris 10-18-2005 05:33 AM

Re: two hands that i butchered i think?
 
as with most responses, i say easy cap the river in hand 1.

hand 2 is a fold PF at the 1/3 blind structure. At 1/2 it's a closer call. Once you've called i'd donk the turn and when raised, check-call the river. That said, someone said to c/r the turn, but i'm too scared to do that [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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