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mockingbird 10-16-2005 07:02 PM

How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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I think I obviously should have folded to river bet, but are there any other suggestions?

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

PokerSparky 10-16-2005 07:18 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
There's no reason to raise the turn IMO.

NateDog 10-16-2005 07:23 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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There's no reason to raise the turn IMO.

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To expand, you aren't going to win with your made hand. You are still drawing, and must improve to win. No reason to force hands out that will pay you off if you hit.

ChuckyB 10-16-2005 07:37 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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There's no reason to raise the turn IMO.

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To expand, you aren't going to win with your made hand. You are still drawing, and must improve to win. No reason to force hands out that will pay you off if you hit.

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If he has reason to believe he'll get even one cold-call on the turn, he has to raise it. His draw is very strong (13 or 15 outs) against 5 opponents. He'll get a max of 4 other BBs by calling the turn. So it's worth a shot...because at .50/1.00, not everyone is going to fold.

He has to improve to win, but he has probably 13 outs...somewhere around 28% equity in a 5-handed pot.

I like the aggression...depending on how he, and the rest of table, have played it so far.

10-16-2005 07:41 PM

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NateDog 10-16-2005 07:43 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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I fold the flop. You have 6 clean outs for straight and backdoor flush. Immediate pot odds are 1:4, it may get reraised.

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Hero also has a pair.

xenthebrain 10-16-2005 07:51 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
Why scare anyone out on the turn? Just call.

lautzutao 10-16-2005 07:57 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
I don't think raising the turn was a very good idea...You're raising a BB that seems to like his hand after being raised on the flop.

You want to see this river as cheaply as possible. And when you see the river and a blank hits, I'd fold this. A pair of 7's isn't going to win this pot and you can be pretty sure you're Way Behind here with callers behind you.

10-16-2005 07:58 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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I fold the flop. You have 6 clean outs for straight and backdoor flush. Immediate pot odds are 1:4, it may get reraised.

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Hero also has a pair.

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I finally noticed that... They are not good either, if the people behind will call and it will not get reraised, the call is ok.

deception5 10-16-2005 08:05 PM

Re: How to Play a Big Draw?
 
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If he has reason to believe he'll get even one cold-call on the turn, he has to raise it. His draw is very strong (13 or 15 outs) against 5 opponents. He'll get a max of 4 other BBs by calling the turn. So it's worth a shot...because at .50/1.00, not everyone is going to fold.


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He needs more than 1 cold caller for this to be profitable.


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