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psyduck 10-16-2005 03:36 AM

(30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
So I'm opening up my early game by limping speculative hands in late position. Yes, actually trying to improve my game and trying to pick up chips early instead of just pushbotting later [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

PF KJs limp okay?


NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: zeroplush ( $920 )
Seat 2: LA8TheRapist ( $775 )
Seat 3: CryingCall ( $755 )
Seat 4: TownLush23 ( $465 )
Seat 5: MHL888 ( $745 )
Seat 6: hero ( $840 )
Seat 8: elp1965 ( $425 )
Seat 9: DEJOKER73 ( $1970 )
Seat 10: Bauxite ( $1105 )
Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Jc Kc ]
LA8TheRapist folds.
CryingCall folds.
TownLush23 calls [30].
MHL888 folds.
hero calls [30].
elp1965 folds.
Bauxite: lol
DEJOKER73 calls [30].
Bauxite calls [15].
zeroplush folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, Kd, Td ]
Bauxite bets [60].
TownLush23 calls [60].
hero raises [200].
DEJOKER73 calls [200].
Bauxite is all-In [1015]
TownLush23 folds.
hero is all-In [610]


Flop play sucks? I expect to see a open-ended straight draws, top pair, bottom two, flush draws etc a lot (i.e. lots of hands that I'm beating). AQ might also raise PF so essentially the one hand I'm afraid of is Q9.

Thoughts?

Edit: I'm also scared of that guy that's to act behind me.

chisness 10-16-2005 03:51 AM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
very tough one, i think i call/push and hope to see worse 2 pair

psyduck 10-16-2005 04:02 AM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
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very tough one, i think i call/push and hope to see worse 2 pair

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PF limp okay? or should I wait for a couple more limpers and a little later position (CO or button, instead of CO-1)

fluorescenthippo 10-16-2005 04:09 AM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
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very tough one, i think i call/push and hope to see worse 2 pair

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PF limp okay? or should I wait for a couple more limpers and a little later position (CO or button, instead of CO-1)

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i think the limp is okay but probably fine. the flop play is perfect in my opinion. maybe raise to 225 or 250. i cant see myself folding this at a 50. i like the raise

eh its a 30 but whatever

10-16-2005 04:20 AM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
All I have to offer is anecdotal evidence. Any time I flop two pair in the early rounds like this and get big action, it seems like I'm always up against a set or straight/flush, and it always pisses me off.

adanthar 10-16-2005 11:47 AM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
Against that action, you might sometimes see JT, but generally, you have four outs, some of them in somebody else's hand.

The above only applies to SNG's where you can put them on hands after they make an action, though.

suited_ace 10-16-2005 02:15 PM

Re: (30+3) KJs flops two pair - yeah real postflop action...
 
PF the limp is marginal, but it's OK.

The flop is nice, but full of dangers. You forgot to try and play your opponents' hands: do you really think that bet/re-raises in that spot has hands that you have beat often enough to make this call profitable?


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