All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

Does anyone have a link to a chart with hand rankings for all-in?

I know the first two:
1. AA
2. KK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Then I guess it goes something like this:
3. QQ
4. AKs
5. JJ
6. TT
7. AK
8. 99
10. AQs

I want a chart that takes into consideration that KQ usually are a better all-in hand than A3 because you will often be called by an A or a pair.

Re: All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

If you search, Sklanksy asked someone to make a chart of this and i think payed a guy money for doing it..

wish i remembered any details at all about what forum i read it in. Maybe General Hold'em?

I'll search for it now, cause i wanna see it.

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errr... so i just looked through all of David's posts that they let me look through.. and i didnt see anyythign similar to what i was talking about..


i couldn't have dreamed something like that up could i?

anyone else remember anything like that?

Re: All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

Stop dreaming, and make an LL-thread for tonights deep stack tourney [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Re: All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

lol, i remember that far too vividly to have completely dreamt it up.. i'll find it.


i'll post the LL later this afternoon.

Re: All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

The value of the hand depends on the situation. I don't think you can really make a numerical hand ranking like Sklansky did for limit holdem.

Suited connectors are better for open pushing from early position whereas Ax and Kx are OK from very late position.

It also depends on stack size. With 15xBB in middle position, you can open push 33 or AJ. There are various considerations for pushing with a very small stack.

The requirements are different to push at limpers, reraise allin, and open push. If you are reraising, you need a different type of hand to reraise an early position raiser than to make a smeibluff resteal from the button or blinds at a mid to late position raiser.

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I'm talking about open pushing.

Re: All-in hand rankings for short stacks
 

Are you thinking about Karlson-Sklansky rankings? They are the specific answer to what hand should you push headsup with a given stack size given that villain sees your cards face up and calls optimally. It's not really telling you what's the best hand to push with a short stack and multiple people yet to act though.

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I'm talking about open pushing.

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Still it varies by position and stack size or M. You could make a chart for pushing with M of 5 from early position, but it would be different from that for pushing with M or 8 from late position.

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Are you thinking about Karlson-Sklansky rankings? They are the specific answer to what hand should you push headsup with a given stack size given that villain sees your cards face up and calls optimally. It's not really telling you what's the best hand to push with a short stack and multiple people yet to act though.

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Aha! I knew i wasn't nuts.

Yea that's what i'm talking about, just happens that it doesn't matter here at all.

thanks though.