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jpb324 10-12-2005 02:49 PM

2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
Call or raise this flop? These players are generally loose passive.


Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero...

@bsolute_luck 10-12-2005 02:53 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
raise. i always get sucked out on with 2 pair [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Reqtech 10-12-2005 02:57 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
Raise. It's tempting to play this for overcalls, but you'll be regretting it when/if a gutshot calls and completes.

milesdyson 10-12-2005 02:59 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
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Raise. It's tempting to play this for overcalls, but you'll be laugh when a gutshot calls two cold.

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fyp

Reqtech 10-12-2005 03:01 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
Better to laugh than to regret, I do say suh!

stoli 10-12-2005 03:05 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
I obviously could never disagree with a raise here, it forces the field to call for two and could win the hand right there. A slowplay might not be bad because the board is very uncordinated and even if a high card comes your two pair will likely hold up against someone who makes top pair only. That being said, I'm probably raising this here to avoid any unlikely holdings drawing out on me.

Aaron W. 10-12-2005 03:05 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
[ QUOTE ]
Call or raise this flop? These players are generally loose passive.


Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero...

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Don't slowplay two pair. But more importantly, don't slowplay two pair when you might run into overcards. Don't you know that they have 9-out redraws against you if they catch a pair on the turn?

Edit: I think it's 8 outs [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

USDaniels 10-12-2005 03:09 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
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raise. i always get sucked out on with 2 pair [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Agreed (even though it's tempting on this flop). Besides, it's already 3.75 BBs. Win them and then all you have to do is NOT lose any more BBs for the next 99 hands and that's a pretty good win rate [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

2+2 Junkie 10-12-2005 03:10 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
grunching....
I go for overcalls here. I would raise the turn though.

tor 10-12-2005 03:11 PM

Re: 2 Pair - Slow Play or Raise
 
Call this flop. Right now it's small enough to slowplay and not worth folding everyone else out as draws you're afraid of are longshots. If it get checkraised, go for a 3bet or cap on this flop.

Start firing on that turn regardless of what falls.


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