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LImitPlayer 10-11-2005 06:41 PM

There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
Loyalty rewards program which will tale the place of rakeback.

Don't hold your breath.

Why would Party offer an internal system sort of like rakeback when they don't want it in the 1st place.

If they did that not only would they be giving the multi-tabling high volume players "rakeback" but they would also be giving it the other 100,000 players plus they have on their network.

Keep dreaming

SinCityGuy 10-11-2005 06:49 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort
 
I have no idea what their plan is, but it seems like it could work for all parties concerned if it was some kind of tiered rewards program. In other words, the more hands you play, the higher % you get rewarded.

The casual fish who only plays a few hundred hands a month would get a small percentage, and it would increase for those who play thousands of hands per month, capped at a certain fixed percentage.

Inthacup 10-11-2005 06:59 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
Why would Party offer an internal system sort of like rakeback when they don't want it in the 1st place.

They want to offer player rewards to stay competitive/maintain their edge over other sites. Party is aware that without rakeback, many high volume players would play at Stars instead. The reasons for this are obvious.

The do not want traditional rakeback because affiliates undercut each other. As a result, players are canceling/reopening accounts and switching back and forth between affiliates. This is problematic for both rakeback and non-rakeback affiliates, which in turn is a problem for Party.

By offering a direct rewards system, they prevent the undercutting and player swapping from happening.

Cup

aces_dad 10-11-2005 07:04 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
That makes sense. Seems to hurt affiliates the most.

What about the reduced incentive for affiliates to find new players for Party? Or do they feel the player base is already saturated?

LImitPlayer 10-11-2005 07:04 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
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This is problematic for both rakeback and non-rakeback affiliates, which in turn is a problem for Party.


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How is this a problem for Party? The only one that it is a problem for is the affilates. It's the cost of doing business either be competitiive or lose the customer.

Party's official line is it does not offer rakeback hence there is no Problem for Party.

Party may have a couple of duplicate accounts or there may be some gnome accounts out there because of rakeback but this is not a problem for Party.

All it is is a couple extra names in a database

SinCityGuy 10-11-2005 07:07 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort
 
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How is this a problem for Party? The only one that it is a problem for is the affilates.

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Party has to deal with the fraudulent duplicate accounts and the outrage from the nonrakeback affiliates (who do bring in a lot of fish). Party does not want to alienate their nonrakeback affiliates, as much as we might despise them.

aces_dad 10-11-2005 07:10 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort
 
And I'm sure you can all think of SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT TYPE LIKE THIS who will hit party for multiple reloads each month using gnome accounts, surely this is bad for party ...

lorinda 10-11-2005 07:17 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
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How is this a problem for Party? The only one that it is a problem for is the affilates. It's the cost of doing business either be competitiive or lose the customer.


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Affiliate A has a banner on "Soccerisdabezt.com" and gets lots of soccer fans to play poker. He doesn't pay rakeback.

Affilate B has a banner on "Pokahisdabezt.com" and has a base of poker playerz. He gives 15% rakeback.

Soccer fanz who got into poker discover Affiliate B and move to him. Affiliate A makes no more money for his work.

Affiliate C offers 275.39% even when he's not allowed to, and also spams the tables. The soccer fanz move to Affiliate C, and also complain about affiliate B ripping them off.

Affiliate A goes bust, and decides that banners with naked women make him more money. Affiliate B gets angry and writes to Party saying that Affiliate C is scum.

Party get two complaints, lose the affiliate who brings in customers, and probably pays out more money because Affiliate C is high turnover.

Lori

Gregg777 10-11-2005 07:18 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
Party has already initiated the program you said they won't.

Look for the posts regarding pop ups when you first log in.

They tell you if you play so many hands you will get x amount. Basically it is a rakeback in bonus form, albeit less than the 25%.

LImitPlayer 10-11-2005 07:30 PM

Re: There\'s been talk on these boards of Party implementing some sort of
 
If your talking about the points sytem, that started a week w ago and it's a limited time offer

Thats not a rake back program and it's not even close


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