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gopnik 10-10-2005 11:17 AM

do I want to raise anywhere?
 
Villain is loose preflop, semi-aggressive, folds to a resistence if does not have a hand. He might be slightly on tilt.


Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB.

USDaniels 10-10-2005 11:30 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
Even at the lower levels that I play I rarely see a LRR that's not AA. However, I still think you raise the flop to see what's up, especially if you think he'd pull this move pf w/ JJ or 1010. I doubt it, but maybe he would if he's steaming. I'd raise the flop and probably fold to a re-raise.

lautzutao 10-10-2005 11:32 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
I think you played it fine. I agree with USDaniels. This is probably a big pocket pair, but since you caught a piece of the flop...might as well get as cheap a showdown as possible.

xenthebrain 10-10-2005 11:34 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
raise the river.

Paxosmotic 10-10-2005 11:35 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
There is no combination of cards that I can hold that keeps me from capping a LRR preflop. After I cap it, if the flop it checked to me, I bet because I'm going to win the hand. If not, I raise the flop then meekly call down because I'm going to lose the hand.

imported_The Vibesman 10-10-2005 11:38 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
I'll usually try to get in a raise on one of the later streets and call down to any resistance. Given your read almost anything is possible. He could have the big pocket pair that EP limp-raisers often have or he could have just about any two and he's decided he's not taking any more **** from anyone. If you raise the flop and he's got crap he'll probably just fold, so you want to keep him bluffing into you until at least the turn, if not the river.

I recommend a calldown in the face of a reraise in case he's got JJ, TT, or KQ and is playing it aggressively.

bozlax 10-10-2005 11:42 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
I can't really speak for you, of course, but I would be strongly inclined to raise the turn when a non-[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] fell. If 3-bet, I'd call, and re-evaluate on the river.

adsman 10-10-2005 11:43 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
There is no combination of cards that I can hold that keeps me from capping a LRR preflop. After I cap it, if the flop it checked to me, I bet because I'm going to win the hand. If not, I raise the flop then meekly call down because I'm going to lose the hand.

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This is interesting. I'll have to ponder this a bit.

siccjay 10-10-2005 11:45 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Even at the lower levels that I play I rarely see a LRR that's not AA.

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I have seen people do this with AA KK A3off 33 76s J2o. LRR doesn't mean AA.

10-10-2005 11:47 AM

Re: do I want to raise anywhere?
 
IMO a LRR in EP means AA and KK way too often for you to be raising anywhere. That being said, he sounds like a donk, and he might be on tilt, so a raise probably isn't too bad, I just think it's pretty close.


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