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tiltaholic 10-09-2005 06:04 PM

play along with me?
 
this hand might be interesting. what do you think?

table is fairly loose, and fairly passive (though to my left is a loose and aggressive player and there are some taggish players in late postion and in the SB).

PokerStars Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero ????

Vote4Pedro 10-09-2005 06:05 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
bet X three

10-09-2005 06:15 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
[ QUOTE ]
this hand might be interesting. what do you think?

table is fairly loose, and fairly passive (though to my left is a loose and aggressive player and there are some taggish players in late postion and in the SB).

PokerStars Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero ????

[/ QUOTE ]

I really don't like a 3 bet here, as you will be playing the hand OOP. Also, if the guy to your left is LAG, if you just call and hit top pair on the flop, you will be able to bet and he will likely raise and protect your hand.

tiltaholic 10-09-2005 06:18 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
excellent. disagreement already.

well, i gotta run to the store, so here's the rest of the pf action and the beginning of the flop...

PokerStars Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, BB calls.

Flop: (21.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ????


now what?

10-09-2005 06:20 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
I would check here. A bet folds approximately noone, and I want to see a turn card as cheaply as possible.

Vote4Pedro 10-09-2005 06:25 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
Might as well disagree with you again(although I dont mind checking), you might fold a KJ or KQ kinda hand

Fantam 10-09-2005 06:34 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
I am not sure that I would have rushed into 3-betting a hand preflop that could easily have been dominated.

Having said that, with your gut-shot and bdfd, I would like to see the turn in this big pot.

A bet is not going to fold anyone, so I think that I would check.

Edited to check from call. lol

J. Stew 10-09-2005 06:46 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
Checks, we don't have the best hand and have 5.5 outs.

Shillx 10-09-2005 06:48 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
Just call the raise preflop unless you do this kind of thing a lot. Go crazy on the flop as this is a very nice board in a very big pot. Bet it when you just call preflop and bet it when you limp reraise.

Brad

Goodnews 10-09-2005 06:49 PM

Re: play along with me?
 
I call, you want utg+1 to stay the aggressor so you earn absolute position.


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