Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

My main question is should I raise the flop though all comments are welcome?

This seemed like a good time to slow play, no flush draw and the only thing that can really hurt me is if someone catches an inside straight on the turn and that's assuming there's an inside straight draw out there which isn't all that likely considering the preflop action (or at least that's what I thought at the time). Of course I lost to the inside straight.

Did I play this badly or am I being results oriented? If I could do this over I think I raise to about 300 on the flop but then again maybe not.

If you're out there curtains I've seen you often tell people in no uncertain terms that they donked out when they've given free cards. Do i deserve to be chastized for this play?

Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: 222 ( $975 )
Seat 9: 999 ( $985 )
Seat 4: 444 ( $1070 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $905 )
Seat 5: 555 ( $3050 )
Seat 7: 777 ( $985 )
Seat 1: 111 ( $910 )
Seat 10: 10 ( $1120 )

Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ks ]

10 raises [55].
111 raises [125].
222 folds.
HERO calls [125].
444 folds.
555 folds.
777 folds.
999 folds.
10 calls [70].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Kh, Qc ]

10 checks.
111 bets [50].
HERO calls [50].
10 calls [50].

** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]

10 checks.
111 bets [90].
HERO raises [300].
10 is all-In [945]
111 is all-In [645]
HERO is all-In [430]

** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
HERO shows [ Kc, Ks ] three of a kind, kings.
10 shows [ Tc, Ac ] a straight, ten to ace.
111 shows [ Qh, Ah ] a pair of queens.
10 wins 210 chips from side pot #2 with a straight, ten to ace.
10 wins 10 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, ten to ace.
10 wins 2740 chips from the main pot with a straight, ten to ace.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

The problem is this play:

10 raises [55].
111 raises [125].
222 folds.
HERO calls [125].

Just push. It's so much easier.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

Ha! I knew someone was gonna say this. Easier isn't always better. Not saying pushing is bad but I think calling is OK too.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

Sorry, I'm not curtains, but can I put in my .02? First, I would've reraised preflop because it happens too often with kings that it's hard to make money postflop if the board doesn't help anyone or an ace comes and you're left with a tough situation. Reraise to 300 or so.

As it was, the pot was about 375 on flop, right? And the preflop reraiser makes it 50? He could be betting that with something weak hoping to see another one cheap as well as get info (AQ, JJ, 10,10, AJ) or he has a monster like kq, qq, or 88. I know, it sucks to raise and chase em out with top set, but there ARE two possible straight draws out there, AJ and A10, both of which are getting to see that next one for a pretty good price. So raise. If they fold, they fold. But if one of them does have a great hand, then they'll pay you off right then and there, hopefully they'll rereraise allin. I would make it exactly what you said, about 300. Too much for an inside straight draw and depending on him, maybe you'll just get a call out of his AQ. After all, he'll see it as only $250 more into a $475 pot.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

I'm reraising preflop. Maybe in a cash game I'd be thinking of a preflop call, but not in a shortstacked SNG. I'm also reraising the flop - there're far too many dangerous straight draws possible. This isn't a slowplay flop in my view.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

Seeing as you asked specifically for curtains, I won't put in my $0.02, except to say your hand history is difficult to read. 444, 11, 10 etc. Just keep the names there.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

[ QUOTE ]
The problem is this play:

10 raises [55].
111 raises [125].
222 folds.
HERO calls [125].

Just push. It's so much easier.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree and I am 55 regular if that counts for anything. You get called here so often.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

I asked for curtains and I asked for anyone else as well so feel free.

I don't like to leave names in as I figure I can keep my nick a secret longer that way.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

Just letting you know the more readable your HH is the more responses you are likely to get. If you're worried about people finding out your screen name (and I'm not sure why, other 2+2ers will avoid you), just use the converter.

Re: Party 55 slow play top set? Curtains? Anyone?
 

I think saying there are a lot of straight draws here is a bit paranoid. I only have two opponents, one raised to 55 UTG and the other was next to act and raised to 125. We can then IMO pretty much rule out JT which leaves AJ and AT.

How often do you see AT or AJ raising to 55 UTG or reraising to 125 UTG+1?

I would say far more usual is for one guy to have AK. Next most likely hands for them are AQ and some sort kind of pair. For someone to catch a straight on the turn then they have to first have AJ or AT (leaving out JT for arguments sake) which is I would say no more than 50% based on the preflop acion. Then they have to hit their gutshot which is less than 10% for a total of say 5% overall risk of a gutshot hitting on the turn. This risk is then what we must balance against potential gain to evaluate slowplaying.

I dunno, I still think this might be a chance worth taking despite the fact that noone agrees with me at least so far.

As TJ said is his book, Columbus took a chance, why not you? Awful book IMO but I thought that was a valid thought.