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silkyslim 10-07-2005 06:47 PM

bah!
 
God damn pot odds, can anyone efold the turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (24 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (18 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, Hero ??

alul 10-07-2005 07:00 PM

Re: bah!
 
Hero folds of course. You don't have enough odds to try and spike a J. Also if somebody has QJ you will be drawing dead.

silkyslim 10-07-2005 07:06 PM

Re: bah!
 
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Hero folds of course. You don't have enough odds to try and spike a J. Also if somebody has QJ you will be drawing dead.

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wait, why don't i have odds to spike a J????? plz count them.

Harv72b 10-07-2005 07:07 PM

Re: bah!
 
You're drawing dead to QQ, TT, QT, QJ, and 22. You're probably drawing to about 3.5 outs against whatever else the field might have (you couldn't be happy to see the J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] show up here). Those two combined should make this an easy enough fold, getting "just" 11.5:1 immediate odds with the possibility of a 3-bet &amp; cap behind you.

alul 10-07-2005 07:18 PM

Re: bah!
 
Right now you do, but if if UTG1 3-bets, CO just calls and SB calls you will have 31/3 which is not enough already. If CO caps, it's even worse. Also considering you maybe drawing dead, I think this is a fold.

silkyslim 10-07-2005 07:19 PM

Re: bah!
 
I was singing, "you're gonna river me , you [censored] [censored]" the whole time i was betting. i cant believe he did................

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Villian showed A7o

Oh and i definately fold the turn in my OP

silkyslim 10-07-2005 07:19 PM

Re: bah!
 
[ QUOTE ]
Right now you do, but if if UTG1 3-bets, CO just calls and SB calls you will have 31/3 which is not enough already. If CO caps, it's even worse. Also considering you maybe drawing dead, I think this is a fold.

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there you go, i agree, thanks for elaborating.

Nick C 10-07-2005 07:20 PM

Re: bah!
 
I think you can discount your outs enough to fold. CO's waking up on the turn is a little bit scary (a slowplayed TT is a possibility), and in any event your overcards probably aren't worth much at this point (AQ is also possible for CO, and UTG+1 is at least trying to represent a queen).

Plus, as Harv points out, the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] may not help you even if your other gutshot outs are clean (perhaps it's the spades that prompted SB to cold-call on the turn).

alul 10-07-2005 07:28 PM

Re: bah!
 
[ QUOTE ]
I was singing, "you're gonna river me , you [censored] [censored]" the whole time i was betting. i cant believe he did................

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (5.66 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Villian showed A7o

Oh and i definately fold the turn in my OP

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This is a nice suckout. I just love it. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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