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ninjaunderwear 10-07-2005 02:18 PM

KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero ???

After a tame pre-flop, everyone really seemed to like that flop, especially SB.

Rank in order from best to worst: Raise, call, and fold.

Also, what is our plan for the river?

hemstock 10-07-2005 02:19 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
I call down.
Call 1 bet on the river.
Fold 2 or more, and fold to an Ace.

MrWookie47 10-07-2005 02:21 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
If MP has half a brain, you can probably fold to a club, too.

Fantam 10-07-2005 02:28 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
1.Call
2.Raise
3.Fold

It looks like SB has a decent hand and either made a set or 2 pair on the flop. I imagine 33 or 66 is the most likely.

You have 8 outs to improve by the river against 2 pair, and 2 outs against a set.

I would call the turn, and call the river unimproved in case your hand is good.

(Unless say a 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] fell on the river or the board paired and there was betting and raising in front of me, in which case I would fold.)

DCWildcat 10-07-2005 02:37 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
Oi. I like calling down.

10-07-2005 02:51 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
Grunch

I'd most likely put SB on a set, and UTG on a Flush draw A-x suited. Think you're WB. Pot odd aren't there for 2 outs. Either fold now, or call down.

ninjaunderwear 10-07-2005 03:18 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
It became quite apparent I was way behind after the heavy action on the seemingly ragged flop. With that in mind, what are our reasons for calling down as opposed to folding?

crownjules 10-07-2005 03:25 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
If MP has half a brain, you can probably fold to a club, too.

[/ QUOTE ]

No more Ralphie!?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

EDIT: I just actually watched the clip. Hilarious.

AngelicPenguin 10-07-2005 03:28 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
Your only real option here it to call in my opinion. Pot is too big to fold an overpair and there is a good chance you'll get 3-bet by raising. Hopefully SB is pushing a flush draw or two pair.

And since you asked: Call, Raise, Fold

10-07-2005 03:52 PM

Re: KK Looks Good, But Everybody Loves The Flop
 
Just call down. You can be against overpairs, two pairs and flush draws. The pot is too big to fold. If the board pairs and both of them slow down. Bet because its a high likelyhood their two pair got counterfitted.


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