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kapw7 10-06-2005 06:50 PM

good river raise bluff?
 
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB has tight stats: 22/9 ABC poker.

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Noodles 10-06-2005 06:59 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
this is terrible,you trying to represent a t or 9?
tight means he had something when he bet and he isnt folding enough

kapw7 10-06-2005 07:13 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
I'm sure he has something. This can be overcards, straight draw, flush draw that beat me b/c of that river card but can fold to a river raise. Tight players can bet-fold on scary boards. I've learned that here. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

deepsquat 10-06-2005 08:03 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
what do u think he will fold that beats u?

No way he folds and overpair, no way he folds a T or a 9,

88 is the only hand that I could see him possibly folding.

Let him bet his smaller PP or A high. Just call, he wont call a raise on this river with anything you beat imo and he wont fold anything that beats u. I see no value in this play.

If you have a missed flush draw or something that may fold a hand that beats u like Ace high then i may not mind this play but i dont think this is a good board 4 it.

deepsquat 10-06-2005 08:11 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
dah daydreaming- A high beats us. let me have a think. Im too tired... lol

callydrias 10-06-2005 09:04 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
Spew. You're putting in 2BB to win 6.16. This will not work 35% of the time.

Edit: Oops, yeah, I meant 25%. I don't think it will work that often either.

me454555 10-06-2005 09:09 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
Raise the turn, fold to a 3 bet. I think thats your best line here b/c even if teh 9 doesn't pair, you calling a river bet right? If he 3 bets your on the turn, your hand is toast anyway. this way you charge overs more $$ to draw on you.

kapw7 10-06-2005 09:24 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Spew. You're putting in 2BB to win 6.16. This will not work 35% of the time.

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You mean 25%. I think it will work against this opponent. Not 100% sure though.

kapw7 10-06-2005 09:28 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Raise the turn, fold to a 3 bet. I think thats your best line here b/c even if teh 9 doesn't pair, you calling a river bet right? If he 3 bets your on the turn, your hand is toast anyway. this way you charge overs more $$ to draw on you.

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I agree raising the turn is a better play.
And fold to a river bet if a 9 (as in the present hand) falls? Or would you play that differently?

me454555 10-06-2005 11:40 PM

Re: good river raise bluff?
 
I think you can toss to a river bet b/c he's not betting w/less than A high. If he bets the river on you after you pop the turn, I wouldn't be surprised if he showed down a boat


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