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FatalError 10-06-2005 04:34 AM

109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
75-150
Hero on BB with AKo with 1500
UTG and UTG+1 fold with 1k
Button moves in for 1k
Big stack on SB with 5k calls

Hero folds or moves in?

Jman28 10-06-2005 04:51 AM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
Calling is an option too.

Deuce2High 10-06-2005 06:42 AM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
Push it preflop.

Ogre 10-06-2005 05:03 PM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
at first i siad push but i think it depends on how the big stack has been playing

Paragon 10-06-2005 05:28 PM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
I probably push.

If both were over 10 bb's I might consider folding. That's mainly because the odds of AK vs AK vs pair start to go up, as well as the likelihood of someone having AA/KK. In this case, while there are some unhappy situations (e.g., AK vs worse ace vs bigstack's pair), they're usually +cEV enough for me to go after them anyway. The button's range is probably very wide, and the bigstack's caling range is also larger than the average stack in this case I think.

Plus, if you win this, it could be your last risky pot until heads up at the very end. You will have excellent position to torment the two shortstacks while restealing the other bigstack (and getting a lot of sb's folded to you).

freemoney 10-06-2005 05:36 PM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
if big stack has been doubling up cuz hes a lucky douche and button is compotent (can push with wide range) i think this has to be a pretty easy call.

patrick dicaprio 10-06-2005 06:38 PM

Re: 109 Hand , Fold AK 5 handed
 
you are getting over 2-1 here for all your chips since you will be called if yo go in. tough to see how you dont do it. button can have anything here and SB knowing this and having a big stack is justified in calling with many hands you beat. i dont see how you can do anything but go all in here.

Pat


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