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jcmack13 10-05-2005 06:29 PM

bottom two facing turn raise- 200nl 6max
 
Villain is 63/14/1.22 after 117 hands. Regrettably don't have much more of a read than that. What's the turn move? Am I good or super destroyed?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Hero ($485.25)
BB ($198.50)
UTG ($111.60)
MP ($588.70)
Button ($238.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $8, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($32) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $60...</font>

xorbie 10-05-2005 06:34 PM

Re: bottom two facing turn raise- 200nl 6max
 
Fold and don't think twice.

Riposte 10-05-2005 06:42 PM

Re: bottom two facing turn raise- 200nl 6max
 
I think you have to let this go. Bottom two pair sucks. Even though this guy is a LAG, I think it might be better to wait for a better situation to get all your money in. Bottom two-pair with a potential made straight and flush draw is dangerous. You'll want to play it fast, but if someone raises you, I think it's best to give up.

It appears he was calling the flop with a strong hand to wait for the turn to drop a non- [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

The reason we can determine his holding is because of the turn card. The J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is obviously a card that doesn't scare him. Therefore we can rule out top pair or an overpair on the flop, such as 77, 88, 99, TT. If he had AA-JJ, he would have most likely raised that with his PFR of 14%.

So, we can determine his potential holdings (from 63% VPIP) as 23, 45, 56, 78, 64, 44, 55, 66. I don't think AJ is a potential holding because he probably would have raised it. You're behind to all of his holdings, except 45 with which you split the pot.

Fold.

10-05-2005 06:44 PM

Re: bottom two facing turn raise- 200nl 6max
 
So what do you think villain has here? Trip J's?

yvesaint 10-05-2005 06:50 PM

Re: bottom two facing turn raise- 200nl 6max
 
[ QUOTE ]
So what do you think villain has here? Trip J's?

[/ QUOTE ]

44
55
66
78
23
37
JJ
45
56
46

jcmack13 10-05-2005 11:28 PM

Results
 
I folded to the turn raise. It seemed correct, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks all.


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