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Josh W 10-05-2005 01:47 AM

Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
There used to be a time when I posted a lot of hands, and I tried to tell neat little stories with them. Then I played in a home game with Andy Fox, and I valuebet bottompairbottomkicker on the river, and proudly announced my hand at showdown. And Andy chuckled heartily and often brought that up. Well, this one was more neater, to me anyways.

I'm playing 25-50, and all fold to me in the SB. Everybody I play with knows that I don't chop, but the lad in the BB didn't know me. I raised w/ J9, and he reached for his BB, to put it back in his stack.

I told him I never chopped, and he begrudgingly looked at his hand, and called with less than enthusiasm. I put him on a pretty bad hand, because he was aggressive and would threebet a lot of holdings here.

Flop came T75, rainbow, and I bet out with my gutshot. He called, somewhat quickly. Hmmm...

Turn was a 2. I checked, and he checked. I really felt that he had no pair here, and quite likely had a straight draw.

I thought that the best non-8 for my hand would be for the board to pair on the river. It did, with a 5. I check, he bet, and I insta-called.

He says "nice hand, I missed". I tabled my hand and proudly announced "Nut Jack high", thinking he may very easily have J8, and I didn't wanna slowroll and just announce jack-high.

He flashed my 98, shakes his head in disbelief, and says nice hand.

Ahh, the good ol' days when poker made sense...

Josh

scott8 10-05-2005 01:53 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
Brings a tear to my eye.

Josh W 10-05-2005 01:59 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
Uh oh. Don't read my other recent post then. At least not without buying stock in Kleenex first.

James282 10-05-2005 02:16 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
This is an awesome post. Nice hand Josh.
-James

Gabe 10-05-2005 03:42 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
I really liked the thought about the board pairing.

obi---one 10-05-2005 03:56 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
thanks a lot josh, now im not the only one to call a jack high winner in that casino.

mike l. 10-05-2005 04:10 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
your thinking on the river is super solid as others pointed out and i was capitivated right up to the part where you.... called?

just checkraise the guy josh!

Josh W 10-05-2005 04:17 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
Bah.

He checks ace high on the river. He calls with a pair on the river if I checkraise.

So, the only hope checkraising the river has is IF he bets a K or Q high and mucks to a raise. The thing is, if he has two overcards to the flop, he probably 3-bets preflop. If he only has one non-ace overcard to the flop, he probably folds on the flop. As such, I don't think he has K or Q high. I also don't think he flopped a pair, as I think he'd raise the flop. This is why I put him on a straight draw.

All in all, I don't see any value in checkraising the river.

That, and there's a certain value in showing that you'll correctly call down with Jack high.

You sir, are a yutz.

Josh

p.s. I don't know what a yutz is. But it sounds good.

NLSoldier 10-05-2005 04:22 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
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That, and there's a certain value in showing that you'll correctly call down with Jack high.

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Yep, I think this is a big reason not to CR. That guy is not gonna try to bluff you again. And anyone else who was paying attention probably won't either.

I agree with pretty much everything else in your post as well.

Chris Daddy Cool 10-05-2005 04:37 AM

Re: Just because I think Andy will like this one....
 
nice hand sir.


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