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fuzzylogic 09-30-2005 04:18 AM

10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed)

Hero ~($3600)
UTG+1 ~($2000)
Button ~(3500$)

Button seems to be good player (28/20 after~500 hands) and is able to pull out some tricky moves.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG Folds, UTG+1 Calls(20$), Hero Raises (80$), Button Calls(80$), SB&BB Folds, UTG+1 Calls(60$)

Maybe I should be raising a bit more after limper?

Flop: ($270) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG+1 Checks, Hero bets $200, Button calls $200 UTG+1 Folds.

Should I have bet more? I almost never bet the full pot on the flop, don't know why.

Turn: ($670) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flush card, but now I have a great hand too. Whats the best line to take from here? I have 3320$ left and Villain has 3220$.

09-30-2005 04:26 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
Bet again and if raised reevaluate. If he does raise check/call down unless you fill up.

chuddo 09-30-2005 04:37 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
if button has been shown to be fairly agressive there is a good chance he would have tried to move you off on the flop with the flush draw.

also the fact both the Ac and Kc are out help a tiny bit, but not too much, as if button is solid he can, and should, have a wide range calling preflop in position.

since your stacks are not terribly shallow, if you wanted to get to a passive weak showdown you could check the turn, and if he bets then call and lead block the river for 1/2 pot. or if you checked the turn and he checks behind, you can lead the river for 3/4ths pot for value and to block, provided a club doesn't fall of course. (which is the obvious risk)

but since his range is so wide he may have a moderate holding such as KJs or K10s and just be looking to see what you do on the turn.

for me it is usually full speed ahead on the ignoramus express and im firing 500 here.

Mikey 09-30-2005 05:50 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
you check.

Hattifnatt 09-30-2005 07:31 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
[ QUOTE ]
you check.

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09-30-2005 09:19 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
EASY - Get yourself pot committed, get all that confusion and doubt out of your mind when he reraises you!

Yeti 09-30-2005 09:24 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
Check-call.

FoxwoodsFiend 09-30-2005 11:58 AM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
Bet 500. No real reason to believe he has a flush yet, and if he doesn't you don't want to give a free card and let any club beat you.

rwanger 09-30-2005 01:29 PM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
Why check?

Because you're afraid of the flush?
or
Because if you were ahead, you're so far ahead now that he isn't going to call with a worse hand?

or both?

freekobe 09-30-2005 01:36 PM

Re: 10/20NL, 6max Set of Aces when Flush card comes
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why check?

Because you're afraid of the flush?
or
Because if you were ahead, you're so far ahead now that he isn't going to call with a worse hand?

or both?

[/ QUOTE ]

I've got to believe you check because you're way ahead here. Only hands with clubs that he flat-calls with pre-flop are QJ and J10, and even that's questionable. If he's the kind of player who is more likely to bluff at this pot but would fold to a turn bet, checking is optimal.


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