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GetThere1Time 09-29-2005 05:20 PM

I don\'t understand any of it.
 
No reads on the table. I sit because one of my buddies is there though he's not real significant in the hand. The whole hand boggles my mind.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (27.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 34.50 BB

marsvolta619 09-29-2005 05:58 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
*mind explodes* With all that money in the pot I don't know if I can fold it, I may just call along. Obviously I want to say this is a set or even a 2-6 straight, but it could well likely be a weirdly played AA/KK

JohnnyHumongous 09-29-2005 06:01 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
tough fold, considering feasible hands could be button with KK and UTG with 8x

scotty34 09-29-2005 06:04 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
[ QUOTE ]
*mind explodes* With all that money in the pot I don't know if I can fold it, I may just call along. Obviously I want to say this is a set or even a 2-6 straight, but it could well likely be a weirdly played AA/KK

[/ QUOTE ]

Or 44 or 66, or even 86 is possible absent reads. You have to let this go somewhere as I'm pretty sure you're way behind with that kind of action. I just can't figure out where, as you are really trapped well. I'm thinking after the turn 3-bet is probably the best plan, but at this point you are praying you still have some outs with this pot.

scotty34 09-29-2005 06:04 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
[ QUOTE ]
tough fold, considering feasible hands could be button with KK and UTG with 8x

[/ QUOTE ]

True he said no reads, but I usually credit an unknown to 3-bet KK on the button preflop.

mute 09-29-2005 06:16 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
Nice hand, IMO. I'm pretty sure you're beat on the turn, but you still have odds to draw out on 2 pair or an over pair. Once it is two more back to you on the river, I would say some one has a boat 99% of the time, so good fold.

I hope SB &amp; BB are on your buddy list!

thesharpie 09-29-2005 06:21 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
UTG looks like some 8x hand to me. A player who stop and goes into a raise and reraise seems capable of playing a lone 8 like this. The button is worriesome but he could easily have an overpair or something like 3 pair. You're getting somewehre between 17 to 1 and 12 to 1, I don't know man.

yanicehand 09-29-2005 06:34 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
I really can't see folding vs. idiotic 5/10 players in a 34BB pot for one more bet with trips + top kicker. Especially having put in money on the river already. Given the play on previous streets, I think you suck it up and call here.

obsidian 09-29-2005 06:35 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
2 more bets actually.

gildwulf 09-29-2005 06:37 PM

Re: I don\'t understand any of it.
 
I think you have, like, a 6-8% chance of being good here. Call.


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