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mmbapmashida 09-28-2005 08:20 PM

JJ UTG
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t3130)
MP2 (t1970)
MP3 (t1850)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1410)
SB (t920)
BB (t970)
Hero (t1810)
UTG+1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero ???

This was only about the fifth hand at the table with Villain, so no reads. $5 MTT on PokerStars.

lastsamurai 09-28-2005 08:53 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
Easy fold.

JeanieJ 09-28-2005 08:56 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
No Doubt, Easy fold. Save your chips, the tourney is still young and there's no need to make a move like this right now.

DyessMan89 09-28-2005 08:58 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t3130)
MP2 (t1970)
MP3 (t1850)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1410)
SB (t920)
BB (t970)
Hero (t1810)
UTG+1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero ???

This was only about the fifth hand at the table with Villain, so no reads. $5 MTT on PokerStars.

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I much prefer to limp with JJ in Early Position, but thats besides the point. This depends mainly on his range of hands he could be doing this with.

However, since you have no reads, and this is a $5 tourney, I think this is a definite call. I think many of the people who are suggesting a fold are forgetting this point. I take it you called, he flipped over AA, and you lost?

adanthar 09-28-2005 09:05 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
[ QUOTE ]
$5 MTT

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Call and expect to be 70/30 or better.

mmbapmashida 09-28-2005 09:11 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
Call me weak-tight or whatever, but I folded. I was thinking people often do this with QQ-AA, and even if he didn't two people behind me and I couldn't be too sure that they would fold too. I folded, they folded.

Dave D 09-28-2005 09:15 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t3130)
MP2 (t1970)
MP3 (t1850)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1410)
SB (t920)
BB (t970)
Hero (t1810)
UTG+1 (t1450)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero ???

This was only about the fifth hand at the table with Villain, so no reads. $5 MTT on PokerStars.

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In a $5 tournament, that early, call. You'll get shown a worse hand a lot of the time. Why would anyone push like that, it's only gonna make you fold.

juris 09-28-2005 09:19 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
Has that really been your experience? Just curious. Hasn't been mine even at those limits.

I fold, but JJ has been my nemesis for ages. That may sound silly, but I'd bet many people have that feeling about a hand or two.

Of course, limping with KK and pushing on the flop has been rather successful at these limits and a move I use often, so maybe my superstition is getting the best of me.

Dave D 09-28-2005 09:29 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
It's a 5 dollar tournament, people who play these are often drunk, high, messing around, blowing off steam...or just really really really bad players. You'll get shown some middle pair a lot of the time, or just any two. People liek to gamble. It's a $5 tournament.

davidross 09-28-2005 09:37 PM

Re: JJ UTG
 
I fold everytime. Winning this pot won't help me nearly as much as busting will hurt me so I want a better read on the villain before I call here. If it had been limped all the way around I look at it differently, but I make the BB push with AA all the time now and get called almost every time.


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