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1C5 09-27-2005 04:17 PM

($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
I had a feeling he would not do this play with JJ or better so I called.

Good/bad?


Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Bluberry (1745)
Seat 3: finnist (995)
Seat 4: Hero (700)
Seat 5: Europides (780)
Seat 8: MillerIII69 (2125)
Seat 9: MATTFLIPPIN (1655)
finnist posts small blind (15)
Hero posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Th, Td ]
Europides calls (30)
MillerIII69 folds.
MATTFLIPPIN calls (30)
Bluberry folds.
finnist raises (980) to 995
finnist is all-In.
Hero calls (670)

downtown 09-27-2005 04:53 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
I fold in that spot. I think it's a personal preference thing though, since I think you're right, but I think it's close (re: his range). I prefer to fold in this spot because I think it's close and I can get my money in in better spots later. (in in? wtf, i'm tired.)

09-27-2005 04:56 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
Not a big fan of this.

1C5 09-27-2005 05:00 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
Put him on a hand guys.

Really JJ is the only hand I am scared of.

QQ+, he is not doing this.

AK/AQ, good chance, but still will be ahead here.

99-22. Good chance of this and I dominate this.

I am standing by my play. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

the_joker 09-27-2005 05:09 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
[ QUOTE ]
QQ+, he is not doing this.

[/ QUOTE ]

Depends who "he" is. If "he" is me, I'll have AA or KK, and get many calls from people who don't think anyone would do this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

09-27-2005 05:11 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
I love pushing all in with AA or KK PF early in an sng. Don't do it all the time, but you'd be surprised how often it pays off.

09-27-2005 05:31 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
I was in a spot like this against a donk, who had gone pretty agro PF with ATo, and another unknown hand. This was the 3rd time he had come over the top of someone, still in level 1, and I had JJ.

Figured that my hand easily beats his range, I called. He turns over KQs, spikes a Q to win.

Was it worth it? No. Not for the risk that a donk gets QQ+ just as often as anyone else. I don't think you can rule out QQ+ making these plays, hoping that someone else will call them in this spot.

Bluff Daddy 09-27-2005 06:45 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
[ QUOTE ]
Put him on a hand guys.

Really JJ is the only hand I am scared of.

QQ+, he is not doing this.

AK/AQ, good chance, but still will be ahead here.

99-22. Good chance of this and I dominate this.

I am standing by my play. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I think you see 99-22 here enough to make this a good call, people love their pocket pairs at the 22's

Amid Cent 09-27-2005 06:50 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
Don't forget that there are two people still to act behind you that have already limped. You have to factor in the chances that one of the limped with a big PP as well.

I think this is a fold and wait for a better chance to double up.

BadMongo 09-27-2005 06:53 PM

Re: ($22) Calling PF all in with TT in level 2???
 
Without a read, this is a pretty standard fold.


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