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Mithrandir 09-26-2005 06:42 PM

Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
In a 6 handed game the other night with all 6 people still in, I went all in before the flop. I had a king/deuece of clubs. 2 People called.
The flop was 2 clubs and an irrelevant card. The other 2 people checked.
The turn was a King, both checked again.
The river was a 3rd club on the board. One person bet, the other folded.
So I said what do you have? The guy who bet said, I've got Kings. I then said I've got Kings... I paused, but I've also got a deuce of clubs. Showing the King high club flush.
The guy who lost the hand then got mad because I didn't call the flush immediately. He thought he had split the pot.
He had thought that the pot should be split, because I said I had Kings, so therefore I have Kings. And not a flush.
I was always under the impression that the cards speak for themselves.
Granted, it could be viewed partly as a dick move on my part for not saying I had the flush right away. However, you can't exactly ignore the cards.

Can I get some feedback on this?

I mean, in a casino a dealer is having you place your cards on the table and then the best hand showing wins.

Could this be simply a house rule people use?

Any feedback is great.

smoore 09-26-2005 07:25 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
Unless there's a house rule about "declare your hand" then cards should speak.

You're a donk for slowrolling [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Mithrandir 09-26-2005 07:29 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
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You're a donk for slowrolling [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Yeah I know... but I knew he had a king after he bet it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Lottery Larry 09-26-2005 07:48 PM

Re: Home Game Hand Ruling Question
 
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So I said what do you have?

The guy who lost the hand then got mad because I didn't call the flush immediately. He thought he had split the pot.
He had thought that the pot should be split, because I said I had Kings, so therefore I have Kings. And not a flush.

Granted, it could be viewed partly as a dick move on my part

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"partly"? No, it was definately a dick move, especially after you slow rolled before then with the "what do you have?" bullshit comment.

But he is wrong- it is cards-speak, no matter what you said.

However, don't pull that crap again- it's childish and stupid- that kind of move can only be pulled to punish habitual slow-rolling dicks.

chesspain 09-26-2005 08:49 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
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Granted, it could be viewed partly as a dick move on my part for not saying I had the flush right away. However, you can't exactly ignore the cards.


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The problem is that others can't ignore your dick move if you announced "kings" while knowing that you had the flush.

Mithrandir 09-26-2005 09:33 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
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The problem is that others can't ignore your dick move if you announced "kings" while knowing that you had the flush.

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The question though is who wins.

09-26-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
You win the hand but are also an [censored] who should not be invited back to the game.

JonPKibble 09-26-2005 11:06 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
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I was always under the impression that the cards speak for themselves.
Granted, it could be viewed partly as a dick move on my part for not saying I had the flush right away. However, you can't exactly ignore the cards.

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You want feedback? Here is some feedback.

Yes it was a dick move, and I was always under the impression that making a dick move in a friendly home game is a great way to prevent getting invited back. If this happened at my game, I would give you the pot, and then kick you in the nuts. Then I would proceed to "not exactly" hear you whining like a girl.

If you are looking for approval, you will not find it here. Slowrolling is for asses.

EMcWilliams 09-26-2005 11:35 PM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
Why were you all in with K2 suited? Secondly, as the host, I we play modified declaire. If its an obvious hand, i.e two pair with one on the board, there is little debate. But if you call kings and you have a flush, you have the kings. Its a eay to have people learn their hands and to call them. In my juristiction, you lose. (Since he obviously had to have a better kicker)

4_2_it 09-27-2005 08:07 AM

Re: Home Game Rand Ruling Question
 
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Slowrolling is for asses.

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