AA, Push small edge?
 

MP1 is somewhat of a thinking player, all others are typical.

If I do indeed have the best hand, my edge is small. Where can I correctly push my edge here?


Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (19.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (19.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (24.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 26.75 BB

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

The best place is the flop. If you don't have the best hand here, you don't have the best hand anywhere (except for maybe on the river). By the way, you would have to hold a gun to my head to make me fold this river. That 3 falling is a great card for you. Sure - it completed a flush draw, but I don't see anyone raising. If the guy has a boat, good for him. However, the 3 just counterfeited something stupid like 8T, TJ, or 8J. I would really, really, call this river. I suspect we have the best hand here much more than 5% of the time.

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

I don't see how we can fold the river here when we only need to be good 1/25 times.

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

You really need to call this river.

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

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You really need to call this river.

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Think of the kittens!

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

I just have a problem over calling here. I would have probably called HU

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I just have a problem over calling here. I would have probably called HU

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No, this should make you want to call MORE. I am almost 100% positive that you have MP3 crushed.

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I just have a problem over calling here. I would have probably called HU

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No, this should make you want to call MORE. I am almost 100% positive that you have MP3 crushed.

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Right, but can I beat MP1 and MP3? Yes I only have to be good 1/25 times here, but there is a bettor and a caller, and more to act behind me. Can I really think that my one pair is ever good here? (Note, I planned on calling and perhaps overcalling any non diamond river)

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You really need to call this river.

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Think of the kittens!

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Chickens, I'm onto chickens now.

Re: AA, Push small edge?
 

You now have two pair, not one pair. My point is this. You aren't 96% sure you are beat here. You should call. Really. If someone raises, and it's two back to me after I call, then I'm 96% sure I'm beat and I fold. Until then though, I call.