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ninjaunderwear 09-24-2005 06:28 PM

Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
Can't help but have second thoughts after things like this happen.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 3 BB

With no likely draws out there, is this a situation where it would be correct to check the flopped set?

I originally bet out expecting to get action from any ace, but I guess nobody had one [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

TheHammer24 09-24-2005 06:34 PM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
I bet there. nh.

Just so you know, generally 1/2 is posted in micro limits and 2/4 and above is Small stakes.

09-24-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
Your bet and reasoning are right on, but you were destined to make nothing after the flop. Don't miss that you picked up information on UTG. He limped in w/o an ace and probably without KK-TT because a lot of players with those hands will not automatically step aside just yet. So, there is a good chance UTG plays hands unfit for early position and if raising works to isolate people at this table, you could occasionally raise with typical calling hands when he limps and see the flop with an advantage.

09-24-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
On a disconnected flop like that you have to hope someone has an ace, because if not they're all going to be scared you have one.

Bet the flop, no question - you're probably more likely to get action on the flop here than you are on the turn.

W. Deranged 09-24-2005 08:14 PM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
Raise pre-flop.

JerseyTom 09-24-2005 09:14 PM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
I raise this with some frequency pre-flop, esp in the limper is weak.

Bet the flop and hope to get action from A. If no one has one, then too bad...


Tom

somapopper 09-25-2005 02:14 AM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
I doubt raising is as +EV as calling in a loose passive game. The prospect of one or more cold callers and the big blind coming in makes me skeptical that I'm going to be able to show down unimproved 8s very often.

Dagger78 09-25-2005 05:20 AM

Re: Flopped Set in Unraised Pot
 
5 handed you need to bet the flop here. If they all fold you weren't going to make much on this hand anyway, but it will be a rare occasion everyone folds here. Don't second guess yourself.


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