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Proofrock 09-22-2005 03:03 AM

Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Stars 11+rebuy 45k guaranteed earlier this evening. Hero is 3rd in chips with roughly 120 people remaining. Pot odds kept me in this. Help on all streets appreciated.

The only read I have is that MP2 minraises with a wide range of hands. Less than an orbit before he had minraised with 78s to 8000, then called another 20,000 allin from a shortstack.

-cj

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (8 handed) converter

UTG (t41525)
UTG+1 (t128199)
MP1 (t106772)
MP2 (t124003)
CO (t67490)
Hero (t218914)
SB (t24687)
BB (t80885)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t8000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t8000, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t24487</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t16487, Hero calls t16487.

Flop: (t74661) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t50000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t99316</font>, Hero calls t49316.

Turn: (t273293) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t273293) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t273293

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has 3d 3h (full house, threes full of fives).
Hero has Jc Td (two pair, jacks and fives).
SB has 5s Ah (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: MP2 wins t273293. </font>

Chief911 09-22-2005 03:08 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Why would you call preflop with this?

Nick

Exitonly 09-22-2005 03:09 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Fold to the first raise, fold to the second raise.


I wouldn't even call just the BB w/ this.

suited and i would though.

Proofrock 09-22-2005 03:11 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Because I'm on the button, big stack, Villain (raiser) has minraised several times since I've been moved to the table and the only hand he's shown has been 78s. Something wrong with this?

-cj

Ruddiger 09-22-2005 03:12 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
[ QUOTE ]
Because I'm on the button, big stack, Villain (raiser) has minraised several times since I've been moved to the table and the only hand he's shown has been 78s. Something wrong with this?

-cj

[/ QUOTE ]

No really, fold.

Chief911 09-22-2005 03:12 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Yes. Fold preflop. Or raise. Calling is not good.

Nick

Proofrock 09-22-2005 03:15 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
seriously? I can see folding to the first raise, but the second ... I'm getting 3 to 1 to make that call.

-cj

Proofrock 09-22-2005 03:18 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
Alright, so either fold or raise ... I can buy that. But could you explain why just calling is a bad idea?

-cj

Exitonly 09-22-2005 03:19 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
but you can't even play for top pair.. you're really looking for two pair or better here... and odds against that are 29:1 for non suited, non connectors... dunno for conneectors, but can't be considerably better, probably 22 or 25:1

Proofrock 09-22-2005 03:21 AM

Re: Need help not losing my chips when I have a big stack
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Because I'm on the button, big stack, Villain (raiser) has minraised several times since I've been moved to the table and the only hand he's shown has been 78s. Something wrong with this?

-cj

[/ QUOTE ]

No really, fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Alright, care to explain? I've given reasons for calling -- at least explain why you disagree with those reasons.

-cj


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