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AllIn3High 09-18-2005 08:15 PM

Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
OK firstly, I'm fairly new to limit, I have played around 10-15K hands of full ring 0.5/1, 1/2 and some 2/4. But only for "practice" as my main game is small stakes NLHE.
Running and playing bad has made me look for a break from my normal game and my eye fell on short handed limit.

So here goes, I hope it's OK I've decided to post a few hands I just wanted to go a bit broad and post a few hands I'm unsure if I played correctly.

Villian in the first two hands is the same 41/12/1.62 (after 87 hands) guy. He's quite a donk that goes too far with his hands. The hands happened almost in succesion so he might be steaming a bit. In hand 1 I bet the turn hoping to take it there or take a free SD unless I improved. In hand 2 I can't push him off a hand, should I 3-bet hoping for a free card but risk he caps?

Villian in hand 3 is 32/20/3.8 after 92 hands and over-aggressive. I really had no plan here - is calling down w/ A-high here good?

Hand 1
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Villian (CO) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Villian calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, Villian calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Villian calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Villian calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Villian has 8h 5h (one pair, eights).
Hero has 9s 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB. </font>

Hand 2

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Villian (MP) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Villian calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villian raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.66 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Villian calls.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB




Hand 3
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333"> Villian (BB) 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Finally, so far I've only played 2155 hands so most of stats are obviously meaningless but I'd like to know if being 24.04/17.77 and having the following stats:

post-flop aggression factors:
flop: 3.08
turn: 3.10
river: 1.96 (total = 2.76)

WTSD: 42.90
W$SD: 49.81

is going in the right direction.

I hope this post isn't too boring / asks too much and I'm appreciating and looking forward to any feedback.

C-Dog 09-18-2005 10:05 PM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
First, don't post the results, skews the answers.

I like hand 1, Were you going to check through the river if that 9 didnt come?

I like Hand 2, this one is pretty straight forward.

In Hand 3 I would fold to the turn bet, as he 3 bet you PF, and you may have as little as 3 outs now, if he had the Q.


C-Dog

whodaman 09-18-2005 10:08 PM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
i would easily fold the flop in hand 1.. your drawing to 2 outs here most of the time.
Hand 2 seems pretty standard
Hand 3 looks fine too. You could play this a bunch of different ways depending on opponent and image.

whodaman 09-18-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
you have very small sample size so your #'s dont mean anything
but
WTSD: 42.90
W$SD: 49.81
These wont continue to be this way. hopefully youll see less showdowns and win slightly more

kahntrutahn 09-18-2005 10:38 PM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
[ QUOTE ]
you have very small sample size so your #'s dont mean anything
but
WTSD: 42.90
W$SD: 49.81
These wont continue to be this way. hopefully youll see less showdowns and win slightly more

[/ QUOTE ]

35/55 +/-3 is good to shoot for [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RunDownHouse 09-18-2005 11:49 PM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
OK, i pretty much disagree with 2/3 of C-Dog's post. Hand 1 I fold the flop. I agree that, if you're going to continue, raising is the way to go. But I don't think that you should continue, even given this guys' stats.

Hand 3, I raise somewhere, preferably either flop or turn. I like a turn raise more, since the risk of being 3bet is lower and you have a ton of options on the river. Usually.

C-Dog 09-19-2005 01:32 AM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
Well 1 out of 3 isnt bad. I just relooked at hand 1, and I actually didn't notice the J there. I would change my answer to fold the flop.

I still dont see the raise in hand 3, you arent ahead of much, and anything you are ahead, he isnt going to fold anyway. You could try the turn raise for a free showdown play I guess.

C-Dog

Victor 09-19-2005 01:33 AM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
fold flop on hands 1 and 3. 2 is obviously fine.

Cancuk 09-19-2005 01:45 AM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
[ QUOTE ]
fold flop on hands 1 and 3. 2 is obviously fine.

[/ QUOTE ]


word

whodaman 09-19-2005 03:34 AM

Re: Am I doing this right (new to 6-max)
 
you guys think in a blind battle vs a LAG he should be folding AJ on this board on the flop....


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