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hustalasta 09-17-2005 11:26 PM

The downswing
 
For the current year I have played about 75k hands averaging about 2.5bb/100, I also have 30k hands last year with similar results. In the past there were downswings, the worst of which lasted about 2500 hands before I was able to get back to even. The last 4000+ hand though have just been mentally draining. Below are the stats from the last 4000 hands.

http://home.comcast.net/~fu2jobu/Poke.gif

I'm not on tilt, but am getting my ass handed to me. I am starting to be more than a little verbally abusive as the streak continues, I wish they had a feature to disble my chat (and yes I realize it is within my power to simply not type it, in this case however I can't seem to restrain myself).

Up until this point I have just forged ahead hoping it will turn back around. Someone please tell me this is a normal occurance, things like this happen, its just a bad streak and things will turn back around. I'm starting to lose the desire to play and eventually it will start to affect my aggressiveness.

The last 20k hands before this little streak looked this:

http://home.comcast.net/~fu2jobu/poke2.gif

Thanks in advance.

NateDog 09-17-2005 11:35 PM

Re: The downswing
 
Raise more pre-flop. Seriously.

You need a break, some study time, and a beer. Take a week off duder, read SSHE, and come back ready to play.

numeri 09-17-2005 11:43 PM

Re: The downswing
 
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I'm not on tilt, but am getting my ass handed to me.

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I am starting to be more than a little verbally abusive as the streak continues.

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These two statements are in direct contradiction. You are on tilt.

As far as your play, you're far too passive pre-flop. You need to get your PFR up to 8-9%. Also, you may be folding a few winners as your WTSD% is a bit low. Check the FAQ for more on those numbers.

This is still possibly due to variance over your 4k sample, but it's clear from your comments that it is not - it's also due to your poor play. Be honest and introspective and look back at the hands you've played. You'll probably find a poor bet or call here or there - these little poor plays add up. Remember, you only need 3 1-BB mistakes every 100 hands to take a 2.5 BB/100 winner into a 0.5 BB/100 loser.

zerosum 09-17-2005 11:53 PM

Re: The downswing
 
When did this downswing start, i.e., date, and which site/s do you play?

My interest is sincere.

BluEsiNsOuL 09-18-2005 12:42 AM

Re: The downswing
 
My read on you is weak-tight.

milesdyson 09-18-2005 01:04 AM

Re: The downswing
 
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weak-tight

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also how the [censored] could you only defend your sb 11% or less of the time against steals? after that many hands i would expect anyone who reads 2+2 to do better than that.

during that 4k winning stretch at 1/2, you defended like 6% of the time...

hustalasta 09-18-2005 01:12 AM

Re: The downswing
 
More Info:

SSH - Have read it but still can't seem to get that Pre-flop raise above 5. Will re-read pre-flop section and work on this. Up until this point 100,000 hands winning 2.5BB/100 made me think my playing style was good enough. I see winning players in the 8-12 range but my results had indicated to me that my 5% suited my game fairly well.

WTSD - FAQ - WSD: went to showdown. This number typical falls into the 28-32 (??????) range, but varies by your style.

Tilt - I dont think my statements are in contradiction. Just because I'm angry doesn't mean I will play and stay in hands I shouldnt be in. I will go back over some hands and see if I think I played anything stupidly. My pre-flop and WTSD% seems consistent with before the bad streak so I guess I should start with turn and river play. What sticks out to me is the VERY low W$@SD.

Downswing started 9/14/05 at Hollywood Poker (Pokerroom Skin) and Eurobet (Party skin) lasted through the morning of 9/17/05.

Weak-Tight: Post-flop aggression is 2.3,1.8,1.6 not sure where that puts me.

zuluking 09-18-2005 01:18 AM

Re: The downswing
 
You've lost $311 in 4,000 hands? Get over it or quit poker. Oh, and you're weak/tight too.

hustalasta 09-18-2005 01:50 AM

Re: The downswing
 
Folded 18 of 19 hands to SB steal. hands:

AA,A9o,K7o(3x),K2s,Q6s,Q6o,JTo,J5s,97s,84o,75o,65o ,64o,44,42o,32s,32o

A9o - raise came from early position
JTo - raise came from player raising 2% of the time
44 - CO raised, a Rock re-raised from Button, no-one else in hand.

Which of these hands should I be defending with here?

.5-$1 = folded SB to steal 166 out of 200, -.15/hand through 75k

$1-$2 = folded SB to steal 34 out of 39 hands, -.19/hand through 7k.

hemstock 09-18-2005 01:54 AM

Re: The downswing
 
What's your aggression factor?
Also. You were running kinda hot. 56% Won at showdown is a little bit high.


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