Folding AA on Coordinated Flop...
 

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (19 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, SB caps...

Sure, there's a possibility that EVERYONE there is raising draws, but I seriously doubted it. With a bet, raise, and re-raise to me, I have to assume my overpair is no good. And even if it were good now, I'm up against two billion straight draws and a flush draw.

I was given 9.5:1 (29:3) odds and I didn't even think hitting an A would win this! Especially if it were an Ah. Plus, I had no backdoor draws.

And with all this action on the flop, I was thinking I'd probably be faced with numerous bets on the turn as well.

Anyone want to argue for a raise or call on this flop?

Re: Folding AA on Coordinated Flop...
 

Yuck. Don't show that SB capped next time, it will skew responses. The thing here is that CO's 3-bet made you fold but you have him beat almost everytime (and badly, aside from A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hands and the like). But this is your classic horrible flop for AA with no backdoor flush draw. Getting 10:1 immediate I think it is really close. With the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I think I would manage a call, but here your reverse implied odds are absolutely horrible. I'm actually not sure.

I think if I were at the table I would fold, FWIW.

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Without reads I'd probably call the three bet. You could have a pair, a lower overpair and a flush draw in front of you.

After SB capped however, I'd be thinking he has a good made hand like a set or the straight. I'd call that bet and try to hit an Ace, preferably not the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] as you said. If I caught that I'd at least call down the rest of the way.

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I also should add I most likely would be faced with having to call at least another two bets on the turn.

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I agree with the first respondent. As soon as hero folds, cut the hand.

You're getting 10:1 here... I'd be really tempted to fold here, though... it's probably not best, though.

Edit: And if you're not folding: RAISE! (push as many people as you can out of this pot).

Re: Folding AA on Coordinated Flop...
 

People do wacky things in big multiway pots. Call the 3-bet and call down from there.

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And then on the turn... SB bets, and it's raised in front of you. Still call because "people do crazy things in big pots" and now the pot is larger?

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This fold sucks something bad.

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Great argument.

I sometimes have to wonder what it would take for any of you to fold AA on a flop in a big pot. Perhaps if the flop were T98 all of the same suit (and you don't have the A of the suit)? Maybe if it were capped instead of "only" 3-bet before me?

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I would cap every time. Capping is way better than calling.