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J. Stew 09-14-2005 12:37 AM

QQ One overcard, multiway
 
Table is loose passive. BB is 29/2 over 62 hands, MP3 is 32/3 over 60.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

With Jacks I just complete with six others already in, QQ I'm raising.

Flop: (14 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (10 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

It's hard to believe a check/fold line on the turn is right, but betting into that many players with a K and callers seems spewy. Check/call doesn't seem awesome.

River: (13 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls.

I felt like I was behind here but they're just calling. Anyone give up here?

Final Pot: 16 BB

09-14-2005 12:41 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
I think betting into passive players like that is fine ... esp. if they would call down the to the river with middle or bottom pair.

On a side note, I can't seem to find tables as passive or loose as this on PP anymore ...

09-14-2005 12:47 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
i would have played it the same.

Solovon 09-14-2005 02:54 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
I'd play it the same, and sigh when someone turns over K8o or whatever.

Thoth 09-14-2005 05:24 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
I'm definitively not betting the turn or river. With 6 opponents the chance of one of them having you beat is just way too high and you're not getting a better hand to fold.

POKhER 09-14-2005 05:29 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
C/F turn in my opinion, Bet one of them has a king... and if not, i reckon you got lucky.

as your posting, prob did have.

Highn 09-14-2005 05:36 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
Think you played it okay, fold to a raise on the turn or river. But since they didn't its fine I think.

POKhER 09-14-2005 05:37 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
how often do you think were ahead?

Highn 09-14-2005 05:45 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
Probably not that often but since noone showed strength I don't think I could give up in this big pot.

edit:

looking at the hand again it does seem kind of a long shot. So what's our line then? check/fold the river? Or at the turn allready, since if were behind there we only have 2 outs to improve. Still think betting the flop is okay since we have a backdoor straight draw there.

POKhER 09-14-2005 05:49 AM

Re: QQ One overcard, multiway
 
Not worth chasing a big pot if you think you'll lose often though, but i see where your coming from.

Not sure if betting is the best action, i'd try for a free card/Cheaper showdown i think(Yes were OOP but hey, can always overcall(EEEK)).


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