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GutPunch 09-13-2005 07:02 PM

Some tuff question hands
 
rebuy on party.
about 5.5k for first

Rebuy has just ended a bit ago.
Table has been fairly limp happy/passive. Hence i felt i could get away with the limp.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t4200)
Button (t2225)
SB (t22072)
BB (t5380)
UTG (t8315)
Hero (t14170)
UTG+2 (t8183)
MP1 (t10827)
MP2 (t4388)
MP3 (t3105)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="red">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to t350</font>, <font color="red">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t350, MP3 calls t350, <font color="red">4 folds</font>, Hero calls t250.

Flop: (t1550) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="red">(4 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets t500</font>, UTG+2 calls t500, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t2550) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="red">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+2 bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800.

River: (t4150) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

How is heros line? Anything you would do different?
(other than fold PF)
Results in white
<font color="white"> UTG+2 shows Ad, Th </font>


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG (t6575)
UTG+1 (t6347)
UTG+2 (t22372)
MP1 (t13125)
MP2 (t6574)
Hero (t12295)
CO (t18261)
Button (t15963)
SB (t9275)
BB (t6030)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="red">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, UTG+2 calls t200, MP1 calls t200, <font color="red">1 fold</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1000</font>, CO calls t1000, <font color="red">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls t800, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t3700) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets t1400</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero ???

CO is same guy from last hand, and has gotten very lucky in a few other spots. He just lost a pot where he minbet A2o every street, only to lose to A6o.
I have hardly any respect for this guy. However, he DID cold call 1k.

UTG+2 is fairly tricky good player, he has limped AK, AQ, AJ, multiple times, and checkraised people about half those times. He is limp/check big hand type. This is who I am worried about.

What is heros move after this person folds?


HAND 3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t19063)
MP2 (t35847)
MP3 (t9595)
CO (t11112)
Button (t5860)
SB (t11243)
Hero (t11295)
UTG (t3850)
UTG+1 (t11085)
UTG+2 (t20386)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, <font color="red">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t200, <font color="red">2 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t1800</font>, <font color="red">2 folds</font>, SB calls t1700, <font color="blue"> Hero??? </font>

table play has been very poor.

EnderIII 09-13-2005 07:50 PM

Re: Some tuff question hands
 
hand 1: bet more on the flop, 1/3 of the pot on the flop looks pretty weak and while you likely have the best hand TPGK is not really a slow play induce action kind of hand...i'd shoot out around a thousand. Likewise his turn bet looks weak, so i'd raise then (if you get reraised i think you can safely feel good about getting away from it). The river check is good though.

2nd hand: he made a bad call pf with AQ or KQs and now has top pair, i probably lay this down because one of my cards might not be live. this is probably too narrow of a range to put him on, but is my initial instinct. I'd be tempted to overbet my AK pf all-in looking like a steal attempt and if the table is as bad as you say you might bring AQ along for the ride pf...but if utg+2 is tricky, then i guess that is out. all in all i guess i wait for a better spot.

3rd hand: i don't really know the right way to react to massive overbets...i think it is probably right to fold this, but pushing is so tempting.

Hotrod0823 09-13-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Some tuff question hands
 
Hand #1: I think I raise the weak turn bet and see how it develops.

Hand #2: I would lead out 1/2 - 2/3 continuation bet on this flop with my over cards and gut shot straight. Given your play I think you can call here and lead out any card on the turn. The 1/3 bet was just a probe looking to take down the pot I think.

Hand #3: I think its a push. See how MP3 reacts. SB will most like fold his mid PP.


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