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kongo_totte 09-12-2005 08:24 PM

2 hands from today.
 
Hand 1

Villian is 35/10 and from what I have seen, pretty bad. I have not seen him get totally out of line yet though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

UTG ($42.50)
UTG+1 ($59)
Hero ($107.40)
MP1 ($169.33)
MP2 ($96)
MP3 ($99)
CO ($52)
Button ($240.58)
SB ($98)
BB ($115.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5, Button calls $5, SB folds.

Turn: ($31) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33</font>, Button folds, BB calls $23.

River: ($97) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, Hero...?

Hand 2

Villian is completly unknown.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($37.15)
BB ($101.05)
UTG ($109.95)
UTG+1 ($182.55)
MP1 ($106.45)
MP2 ($99.45)
Hero ($101.95)
CO ($128.45)
Button ($95.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($19.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Thoughts?

DoomSlice 09-12-2005 08:26 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
Do you really want 3 others to stay in on the flop in Hand 1?

kongo_totte 09-12-2005 08:28 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Do you really want 3 others to stay in on the flop in Hand 1?

[/ QUOTE ]

On that flop, I'll take my chances and just call before PFR has acted.

foldem 09-12-2005 08:38 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
Hand 1 push all in on the river

Hand 2 raise the turn to 25

kongo_totte 09-12-2005 08:39 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
[ QUOTE ]

Hand 2 raise the turn to 25

[/ QUOTE ]

Would you care to elaborate? Easy fold if he 3-bets?

jkkkk 09-12-2005 08:45 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
Hand 1 reminds me of a marginal situation where I held 77 on a 887Ax board, flop check-check, turn jk bets pot-call, jk pots again, min-raise, I push.

I lost the hand but figured he still would of called with 8x, I'm not so sure though. I think you can call this river.

Hand 2:

Raise the flop.

kongo_totte 09-12-2005 08:47 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2:

Raise the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Would you care to elaborate?

foldem 09-12-2005 08:50 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
Raise the turn for value and hand protection. He could be drawing pretty live with a hand like 67 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and be betting small to "freeze" you.

Without a read I would call a push but I am not sure how a typical unknown plays full ring 100NL. If your experience is he isn't three betting all in here without a house then raise and fold to a three bet.

jkkkk 09-12-2005 08:52 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
Sure, your getting a weaker Q to call or possibly 67 s00ted. If he calls I'm probably checking behind on the turn and calling a bet or value betting the river. Your probably scared of a tighty holding nothing less than a set on the flop here which is possible but I think you'll see a weaker Q a lot of the time.

MINETZ 09-12-2005 08:56 PM

Re: 2 hands from today.
 
hand 1 raising flop is better, but as u did I think u still raise the river, look at his stats, plus he didnt 3 bet the turn, which he most likely wouldve /w AK.
hand 2 raise the flop, if he 3 bets u can fold, but now u have put yourself in a predicimine on the turn, because if he has a q hell prolly think its good and overplay it the same way he would a fullhouse, i think this hand had turned into c/c.


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