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Steverino2 09-08-2005 06:10 PM

Top Two--all in by mistake
 
Noble Poker 11 SNG

First lap--Blinds are 10/20--
two limpers and I raise to 80 w/ AKo--SB and one limper call

Flop is A K Q two diamonds--pot is 250--I type in 250 to
bet the pot, but hit the all in button instead by mistake- SB calls with JT for the flopped str8--and I don't improve--OUT

If I had bet the pot as intended--can anyone fold here to
a big raise either on the flop or turn?? Is a pot sized
bet too large with this flop??

09-08-2005 06:24 PM

Re: Top Two--all in by mistake
 
First I raise to at least 100 with two limpers in already.

Secondly, what are the stack sizes at Noble? That would have a big impact on how much I bet and how likely I am to call.

Steverino2 09-08-2005 06:33 PM

Re: Top Two--all in by mistake
 
This was the first lap--third hand--everyone starts w/ 1000-
all players involved have within 20 of that figure

mcpherzen 09-08-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Top Two--all in by mistake
 
This might sound funny, but you SHOULD be going broke here every time in this situation (every time you flop A's and K's and your opponent flops the straight, that is). If you aren't, you're playing too passively.

If you bet, say, $200 on this flop and get raised all-in, you should insta-call. You will be shown A-Q, A-x, K-Q, K-x, J-x, 8-8, 3-4, (etc., etc.) and the diamond draw much more than frequently enough for this play to be hugely +EV, despite the handful of times that your opponent will have J-T and break you.

--Zen

09-08-2005 06:44 PM

Re: Top Two--all in by mistake
 
Well, let's see. If you bet about the pot, which I would, that leaves you w/ about 650 left. If the villain then goes all-in, you're getting about 2-1 on the call. You're ahead of any other ace and any draw. You're behind the unlikely AA/KK/QQ and the possible JT. At this level, I don't think I can fold this, because I've seen so many people play AQ/AJ, or even Ax or a flush draw this way. If he happens to have the straight, you still have about a 20% chance of filling up. Call and kick the dog.


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