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aflaba 08-29-2005 10:32 AM

Value bet on the river with A-high
 
A value bet on the river with A-high?
Do you ever do that?
What do you think about this one?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

EDIT: Ohh, yeah. Villain is unknown

08-29-2005 10:41 AM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
Yes, in some (rare) circumstances you can value bet A high on the river but NEVER without a solid read on your opponent.

bugstud 08-29-2005 10:48 AM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
standard

krishanleong 08-29-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
check the river.

yes I bet ace high for value once in a blue moon. There is a 0% chance that he is calling with a worse hand 55% of the time.

Krishan

dave44 08-29-2005 12:36 PM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
I won't value bet A-high with position unless I have strong reason to believe he has a worse ace. Out of position this bet would make more sense.

DMBFan23 08-29-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
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EDIT: Ohh, yeah. Villain is unknown

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in that case I don't like it. even if you do have the best hand, he will almost always fold if you bet. even if there is razor thin +EV here, imagine the extra +EV you get from knowing he had J8o here, or even something like 97o. in addition, you don't get c/r bluffed.

just some thoughts.

aflaba 08-29-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Value bet on the river with A-high
 
I figured he is probable to have:

Tx
PP
Ax

Judging from his play I figured Ax was most likly. Since low pairs "should" have been ch/r.

But maybe this play wasn't right against an unknown.

EDIT: One thing I didn't think about but that someone else observed is that since he called from UTG he is probable to be LP? And LP like to call pairs down?


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