$5-10 QQ bad river
 

I am dealt Qs Qc UTG and raise 9 handed. Folds to the button who calls. Blinds fold. Button has been at the table for around 20-30 minutes. I do not have a note written on him yet, but he does not seem to be playing many hands PF. He is at least not as loose and wild as the other players at the table.

Flop Tc 5d Jh

I bet, he raises, I re-raise, he calls.

Turn is Th

I bet, he calls.

River Jc (pot is $77.5 minus rake)

Whats my action, and plan?

Re: $5-10 QQ bad river
 

check, call. he could have raised on the flop with QK or any straight draw or AK or any ace thinking it is good. getting ~9-1 after rake is a good enough price to call him down.

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I bet and probably call....bet fold is good if he is very straight forward but this is a nice card to bluff on.

Re: $5-10 QQ bad river
 

Fire away.

I am guessing that the river is "bad" because it paired. Why wouldn't you think the turn is bad with the same logic?

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I am guessing that the river is "bad" because it paired. Why wouldn't you think the turn is bad with the same logic?

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Good point.

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Fire away.

I am guessing that the river is "bad" because it paired. Why wouldn't you think the turn is bad with the same logic?

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Because now the board is double paired and the raise on the flop from villian very well could have meant top pair.

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Fire away.

I am guessing that the river is "bad" because it paired. Why wouldn't you think the turn is bad with the same logic?

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Because the way the flop played out it is much more likely he has a J than a T, thus the river card is more worrisome.

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Fire away.

I am guessing that the river is "bad" because it paired. Why wouldn't you think the turn is bad with the same logic?

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Because the way the flop played out it is much more likely he has a J than a T, thus the river card is more worrisome.

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Ha ha. I beat you to the punch.

Re: $5-10 QQ bad river
 

I would c/c because I would hate to be raised here.

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Because the way the flop played out it is much more likely he has a J than a T, thus the river card is more worrisome.

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I think the flop plays exactly the same way whether he had a T, J, 99, AQ, or AK.

I think you're missing too many calls by an ace to not bet this river, and that the more difficult question is whether to fold to a raise.