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MikeSpicoli 08-26-2005 02:50 AM

Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
No reads on villains, sorry for not converting
Im most interested in the turn and river plays.

Game #934147553: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/08/26 - 07:37:30 (UK)
Table "Hollyhock" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: Frink ($33 in chips)
Seat 2: Slade ($88.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 4: kvala ($21.75 in chips)
Seat 5: btlee ($40 in chips)
Seat 6: Muzie ($54 in chips)
Seat 7: Scottyksu ($22 in chips)
Seat 8: And040642 ($33.98 in chips)
Seat 9: Studmaste ($61.37 in chips)
Seat 10: KingKong ($37 in chips)
Scottyksu: posts small blind $0.50
And040642: posts big blind $1
btlee: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [Th Ad]
Studmaste: calls $1
KingKong: folds
Frink: calls $1
Slade: folds
Hero: calls $1
kvala: folds
btlee: checks
Muzie: folds
Scottyksu: calls $0.50
And040642: checks
----- FLOP ----- [2s Kh Qd]
Scottyksu: checks
And040642: checks
Studmaste: bets $1
Frink: calls $1
Hero: calls $1
btlee: calls $1
Scottyksu: calls $1
And040642: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [2s Kh Qd][Jc]
Scottyksu: checks
And040642: bets $2
Studmaste: raises $4
Frink: folds
Hero: calls $4
btlee: calls $4
Scottyksu: folds
And040642: calls $2

Decided to go for overcalls here, correct play?

----- RIVER ----- [2s Kh Qd Jc][Ks]
And040642: bets $2
Studmaste: raises $4
Hero: calls $4
btlee: folds
And040642: calls $2

Should i be 3betting this river?

aK13 08-26-2005 02:53 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
3bet that turn dude. You gotta stick in a raise somewhere...I guess the only place now.

deepsquat 08-26-2005 03:22 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
im not sure i raise the turn. I think theres a huge chance it will end up HU. Anyone raise the river as it was played?

08-26-2005 03:31 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
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im not sure i raise the turn. I think theres a huge chance it will end up HU. Anyone raise the river as it was played?

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I was about to say I also like the idea of delaying this raise, but you gotta do it on the turn. These guys are all a bunch of calling stations, so I agree with aK here. Also, one villain checked on the turn (showing weakness, so he probably was in c/f mode) and the others that bet would probably call if you raised. Get that value bet in.

The K falling is somewhat scary. I'm thinking long and hard about Stud's raise on the river (possible two pair?), but a quick review of PF and flop tells me he's not holding it. 3bet. Take that nice, big pot down.

08-26-2005 03:33 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
You did the right thing on the turn...I think there's money to be made by trying to keep everyone around for the river. 3-bet the river though...you have to hope that someone had a K or just feels aggressive

deepsquat 08-26-2005 03:40 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
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a quick review of PF and flop tells me he's not holding it. 3bet. Take that nice, big pot down.

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Interesting point, but plenty of crypto 1/2 players will not raise KQ or KJ or obviously 22 pf. If i had to put studmaste on a hand looking at the action KQ,KJ or 22 would be the top 3.

aK13 08-26-2005 04:55 AM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
I can't see many players calling 2 cold on the turn that they wouldn't call for 3.

CaptainCrunch 08-26-2005 04:39 PM

Re: Straight on paired board, big pot.
 
G:

without any reads at all, and with the lack of a pf raise, I'm putting "Stud" on Kx, so he's betting his top pair. "And0" Has me worried, but a straight is a straight, and it beats 2p and trips, which I think we'll see here more often than a boat. I also think you're going to split this more often than you lose it, at least you have the other callers to pad the pod between the splitters.

I raise the turn. Pot is large enough that I start wanting to win it right now Raise the river, crying call to a cap. (assuming turn 3bet does not get someone to fold and betting is identical subsequently)


I'm guessing you lost it to K2, right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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